08-29-2016, 12:27 PM
08-29-2016, 02:39 PM
1) Support USB-host serial things in the HP Prime OS
2) Provide HPPPL commands for Serial write/read
3) Done. That would beat ti-innovator instantly
2) Provide HPPPL commands for Serial write/read
3) Done. That would beat ti-innovator instantly
08-29-2016, 02:40 PM
I see now why TI nerfed the Nspire's built in programming capabilities - they knew they would want to blag you with over priced programmable peripherals at some point in the future.
An expensive way to make LEDs turn on and off - that Holy Grail of school IT provision.
An expensive way to make LEDs turn on and off - that Holy Grail of school IT provision.
09-01-2016, 05:29 AM
Quote:they knew they would want to blag you with over priced programmable peripherals at some point in the future.Actually, the price tag of the TI-Innovator is much lower than we could have feared, given the severe overpricing habits of the education market
However...
Quote:An expensive way to make LEDs turn on and off - that Holy Grail of school IT provision.... you're still right, of course. It's a fact that most models of developer-oriented COMs and SBCs based on ARM SoCs are (much) cheaper, more open and uniformly much more powerful, in terms of computing power, storage space and I/O capabilities, than a Nspire CX, or a Prime. Out of the box, the boards run more or less standard Linux kernels.
The calculators' built-in screen, keyboard and battery, which make them autonomous, aren't that useful when connected to non-self-powered lab equipment anyway...
09-01-2016, 06:53 AM
No sign of a UK price for these but a TI89 costs lap-top money over here.
The TI system as shown puts two "black boxes" between the student and the LEDs that are being power-cycled. I don't see how such hardware abstraction moves the learner any nearer to understanding the essence of a microprocessor system.
An old style Z80 based tutor board, with 2K RAM, hex display and keypad puts the student much closer to what is going on.
Such a basic device might not seem as cool as the TI set-up, nor would it excite teachers with poor technical knowledge when they attend Powerpoint-saturated educational conferences but when you need to learn something that is difficult then there is no alternative to sitting down and learning something difficult.
The TI system as shown puts two "black boxes" between the student and the LEDs that are being power-cycled. I don't see how such hardware abstraction moves the learner any nearer to understanding the essence of a microprocessor system.
An old style Z80 based tutor board, with 2K RAM, hex display and keypad puts the student much closer to what is going on.
Such a basic device might not seem as cool as the TI set-up, nor would it excite teachers with poor technical knowledge when they attend Powerpoint-saturated educational conferences but when you need to learn something that is difficult then there is no alternative to sitting down and learning something difficult.
09-05-2016, 09:09 AM
BTW, the TI-Innovator is derived from one of the MSP432 Launchpad boards, which are much cheaper. Therefore, one can leverage a subset of the TI-Innovator features, e.g. light sensor and buzzer are missing out of the box, at a fraction of the price tag - less than $15 - by reflashing the appropriate Launchpad model with the TI-Innovator firmware. The Launchpad has a micro-USB interface while the calculator has a mini-USB one, so one needs to buy one or more adapter cables.
This is not theoretical, critor and/or Adriweb have tested it - I'm basically summarizing https://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=18947 here.
This is not theoretical, critor and/or Adriweb have tested it - I'm basically summarizing https://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=18947 here.