About 10 years ago I started with a database listing all HP-41 modules, EPROMs, ROM images und devices including software. As i was a bit "off" during the last 5-6 years this list is terribly outdated. I want to bring this list into shape, but I need your help. Please drop me all missing information, modules, images, .....
I gave my best, to list even different software versions separately. Please help us to update the list.There are two attachments: First, the newest version of the module database and second a empty sheet in which you can fill the missing informations. Please send me your filled sheet to museum@hp-collection.org
(04-22-2015 06:13 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]About 10 years ago I started with a database listing all HP-41 modules, EPROMs, ROM images und devices including software. As i was a bit "off" during the last 5-6 years this list is terribly outdated. I want to bring this list into shape, but I need your help. Please drop me all missing information, modules, images, .....
I gave my best, to list even different software versions separately. Please help us to update the list.There are two attachments: First, the newest version of the module database and second a empty sheet in which you can fill the missing informations. Please send me your filled sheet to museum@hp-collection.org
http://systemyde.com/hp41/manuals.html
then click on 41CL Memory Reference (pdf) updated 04/12/2015
(04-22-2015 06:27 PM)Ángel Martin Wrote: [ -> ] (04-22-2015 06:13 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]About 10 years ago I started with a database listing all HP-41 modules, EPROMs, ROM images und devices including software. As i was a bit "off" during the last 5-6 years this list is terribly outdated. I want to bring this list into shape, but I need your help. Please drop me all missing information, modules, images, .....
I gave my best, to list even different software versions separately. Please help us to update the list.There are two attachments: First, the newest version of the module database and second a empty sheet in which you can fill the missing informations. Please send me your filled sheet to museum@hp-collection.org
http://systemyde.com/hp41/manuals.html
then click on 41CL Memory Reference (pdf) updated 04/12/2015
Angel
Thanks for the reply. I will have a look at this list, even mine seems to be much more extensive.
You are (one of) the most productive programmer for HP-41 images. It would really help us a lot if you could fill out my empty sheet. I can not exactily say what version of what image was realeased by you and I would really like to set them all in the list. There are also some informations I can not set in the database as long as I do not have the image.
Finally I streamed through the full internet plus the CL reference (thanks Angel) for "new" HP-41 software that is not in my database yet. Uff, I can tell you, the list of new entries was loooooong, but finally I think, I have a first new release ready soon. But therefore I have some questions some of you might answer: my CL is a BETA unit and not in use, so I do not have a lot of these software images listed in the reference:
41CL Memory Functions 1B
BBS ROM
BGUG ROM
Blackjack MAX -2E
Buderus-3 Module
CalTrans Survey ROM
Chemical Engineering Solutions
Fluid Dynamics Solutions
ETSII3B ROM
ETSII4B ROM
ETSII5A ROM
ETSII6A ROM
For Fee ROM
Funstuff ROM
Geometric Solver ROM
HEPAX 1E ROM (only version E is missing)
HVAC Solutions
Laplace Transform ROM
Math Programs Collection
Modified Advantage ROM
NutIP TCP/IP ROM 1A
Program Generator ROM
PSOF ROM
SI ROM
Solar Engineering Solutions
Spreadsheet ROM
TVM Module 1E
Vegas -1C ROM
Does someone has images (.MOD prefered) of some / all of these? I think you could extract them easily from a CL. I didn't found them in the web, sorry.
{don't want to hijack topic, if this needs a separate thread that is fine}
Don't clutter up the list (which is immensely fascinating, BTW) with minutia, but if anyone knows of some 'useful' utility type 4K ROMs (be thinking more along the lines of ZenROM, not Home Management) that are internally addressed to the upper block of a port I'd be mighty appreciative.
I suspect this is going to be a very short list, possibly the ZenROM is the only one ?
Regards, and thanx!!
(05-28-2015 10:12 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]Finally I streamed through the full internet plus the CL reference (thanks Angel) for "new" HP-41 software that is not in my database yet. Uff, I can tell you, the list of new entries was loooooong, but finally I think, I have a first new release ready soon. But therefore I have some questions some of you might answer: my CL is a BETA unit and not in use, so I do not have a lot of these software images listed in the reference:
41CL Memory Functions 1B
BBS ROM
BGUG ROM
Blackjack MAX -2E
Buderus-3 Module
CalTrans Survey ROM
Chemical Engineering Solutions
Fluid Dynamics Solutions
ETSII3B ROM
ETSII4B ROM
ETSII5A ROM
ETSII6A ROM
For Fee ROM
Funstuff ROM
Geometric Solver ROM
HEPAX 1E ROM (only version E is missing)
HVAC Solutions
Laplace Transform ROM
Math Programs Collection
Modified Advantage ROM
NutIP TCP/IP ROM 1A
Program Generator ROM
PSOF ROM
SI ROM
Solar Engineering Solutions
Spreadsheet ROM
TVM Module 1E
Vegas -1C ROM
Does someone has images (.MOD prefered) of some / all of these? I think you could extract them easily from a CL. I didn't found them in the web, sorry.
Matthias,
I'll send you copies of all those modules listed above if you send me the following ones:
Code:
1 3M Module
2 Appraiser Module 1.3
3 Appraiser Module 1.4
4 Bausparkasse Schwäbisch Hall
5 BeechCraft Super King Air 200 and 200C
6 Boeing B-52D FSC
7 Boeing B-52H FSC
8 Boeing E-6A W&B 0
9 Boeing KC-135 FSC
10 C141B FSC
11 C5A FSC - V2
12 C5A FSC - V1
13 Cessna Citation III
14 COGO41
15 COGO Rom
16 Demopoulos T.M-GEODETIC
17 Demopoulos TOPO-SURVEY
18 Dr Zign Racetrack
19 DRC
20 Financial Planner
21 Forecaster 1
22 Forecaster 2
23 Forecaster 3
24 Gunzen Howitzer FH70 / M107
25 Handy Compact ROM
26 Hayes Surveying SunShooter
27 McDonnell Douglas C-9B P-S APAC
28 McDonnell Douglas KC-10 LMC 1A
29 McDonnell Douglas KC-10 LMC 1B
30 McDonnell Douglas KC-10 LMC 2B
31 Mead Johnson Enfamil
32 Mead Johnson Prosobee
33 Mercantile Mutual Live Plus/Investment Pack
34 Military Engineering
35 MORTAR
36 Morzen System ROM
37 Morzen ROM
38 MPCS-6
39 Mücke Software IBK
40 MW Software Brøtje1
41 MW Software Buderus I
42 MW Software KERMI NT2000
43 MW Software Köln 1
44 MW Software Köln 2
45 MW Software Köln 5 (Schornsteinberechnungen)
46 MW Software Oventrop Ventil-Modul + Cards
47 MW Software Thermoval Modul
48 MW Software Velta Modul
49 MW Software WILO Pumpenmodul
50 NAVCOM (Educalc #45)
51 Pictorial RomPower BVS
52 Pictorial RomPower CMA
53 Pictorial RomPower HPP
54 Pictorial RomPower RNA
55 Retail Car Sales (Educalc #45)
56 RHODESYSTEMS II
57 Schenck Auswucht- Modul CAB41
58 SDS Rom
59 SMI CO-OP 41 Surveying Module
60 SMI CO-OP 41 Surveying Module Georgia Dot
61 SMI CO-OP 41 Surveying Module GaDot
62 SMI COGO (Port 4)
63 SMI Sun Shooter Co-op Module
64 SMI Surveyor-41th Co-op Module
65 SMI Surveyor-41th Plotter Module
66 TDS CO-OP 41 Instrument module
67 TDS CO-OP 41 Plotter module
68 TDS CO-OP 41 Surveying module
69 TDS CO-OP 41 Surveying module
70 Tinker AFB Module
71 USPS Delivery Service Module
72 UWE Mathe 1+2, ALLG 3, ETECH 4
73 Valuation 1
74 WPN Effects
75 ZenNavPac II
76 ZenNavPac II Evaluation
77 Seapipe
deal??
'AM
Quote:Matthias,
I'll send you copies of all those modules listed above if you send me the following ones:
Code:
1 3M Module
2 Appraiser Module 1.3
3 Appraiser Module 1.4
4 Bausparkasse Schwäbisch Hall
5 BeechCraft Super King Air 200 and 200C
6 Boeing B-52D FSC
7 Boeing B-52H FSC
8 Boeing E-6A W&B 0
9 Boeing KC-135 FSC
10 C141B FSC
11 C5A FSC - V2
12 C5A FSC - V1
13 Cessna Citation III
14 COGO41
15 COGO Rom
16 Demopoulos T.M-GEODETIC
17 Demopoulos TOPO-SURVEY
18 Dr Zign Racetrack
19 DRC
20 Financial Planner
21 Forecaster 1
22 Forecaster 2
23 Forecaster 3
24 Gunzen Howitzer FH70 / M107
25 Handy Compact ROM
26 Hayes Surveying SunShooter
27 McDonnell Douglas C-9B P-S APAC
28 McDonnell Douglas KC-10 LMC 1A
29 McDonnell Douglas KC-10 LMC 1B
30 McDonnell Douglas KC-10 LMC 2B
31 Mead Johnson Enfamil
32 Mead Johnson Prosobee
33 Mercantile Mutual Live Plus/Investment Pack
34 Military Engineering
35 MORTAR
36 Morzen System ROM
37 Morzen ROM
38 MPCS-6
39 Mücke Software IBK
40 MW Software Brøtje1
41 MW Software Buderus I
42 MW Software KERMI NT2000
43 MW Software Köln 1
44 MW Software Köln 2
45 MW Software Köln 5 (Schornsteinberechnungen)
46 MW Software Oventrop Ventil-Modul + Cards
47 MW Software Thermoval Modul
48 MW Software Velta Modul
49 MW Software WILO Pumpenmodul
50 NAVCOM (Educalc #45)
51 Pictorial RomPower BVS
52 Pictorial RomPower CMA
53 Pictorial RomPower HPP
54 Pictorial RomPower RNA
55 Retail Car Sales (Educalc #45)
56 RHODESYSTEMS II
57 Schenck Auswucht- Modul CAB41
58 SDS Rom
59 SMI CO-OP 41 Surveying Module
60 SMI CO-OP 41 Surveying Module Georgia Dot
61 SMI CO-OP 41 Surveying Module GaDot
62 SMI COGO (Port 4)
63 SMI Sun Shooter Co-op Module
64 SMI Surveyor-41th Co-op Module
65 SMI Surveyor-41th Plotter Module
66 TDS CO-OP 41 Instrument module
67 TDS CO-OP 41 Plotter module
68 TDS CO-OP 41 Surveying module
69 TDS CO-OP 41 Surveying module
70 Tinker AFB Module
71 USPS Delivery Service Module
72 UWE Mathe 1+2, ALLG 3, ETECH 4
73 Valuation 1
74 WPN Effects
75 ZenNavPac II
76 ZenNavPac II Evaluation
77 Seapipe
deal??
Just notices, that severals of these images are abailable in the web, at TOS and on other site... Maybe I use a some other namesfor a module than you. Thats exactly the advantage of the HP-41 module database: the modules are listed with their CATs, XROMs, .. so its easy to compare.
(05-30-2015 06:56 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]Just notices, that severals of these images are abailable in the web, at TOS and on other site... Maybe I use a some other namesfor a module than you. Thats exactly the advantage of the HP-41 module database: the modules are listed with their CATs, XROMs, .. so its easy to compare.
Good try but unfortunately that's not the case - they're not available and I guess they won't be for a long time... too bad.
0x188 is the FORECASTER1 ROM
0x189 is the FORECASTER2 ROM
...
Best Regards
Matthias
(05-31-2015 08:01 AM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]0x188 is the FORECASTER1 ROM
0x189 is the FORECASTER2 ROM
...
Sure, I know those two very well because they were contributed by Poul Kaarup as response to my call for a shared library amongst the community members.
http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-1629.html
So two down, another 55+ to go... who's next?
For the record, all the ROM images I have are in the CL library - don;t mean those I wrote, but also the purchased ones.
A personal choice, naturally...
(05-31-2015 10:06 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote: [ -> ]So two down, another 55+ to go... who's next?
Hello Ángel,
I have posted
here the content of the TDS CO-OP 41 kit that I own.
The zip file contains the following documents ...
Code:
TDS CO-OP 41 Document List.txt
TDS CO-OP 41 Instrument Module Addendum.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Instrument Module User Manual.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Modules Image 5K LIF.dat
TDS CO-OP 41 Modules Image 8K ROM.zip
TDS CO-OP 41 Modules Image Catalog.txt
TDS CO-OP 41 Picture Front.jpg
TDS CO-OP 41 Picture Kit.jpg
TDS CO-OP 41 Picture Top.jpg
TDS CO-OP 41 Plotter Module Addendum.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Plotter Module User Manual.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Surveying Module Reference Manual.pdf
and it contains the following modules images ...
Code:
==========================================================
TDS CO-OP 41 MODULES
==========================================================
==========================================================
-> TS4031.ROM TS4032.ROM TS4033.ROM TS4034.ROM
-- ------------ ------------ ------------ ------------
FN XROM 04,FN XROM 10,FN XROM 31,FN XROM 30,FN
-- ------------ ------------ ------------ ------------
00 SURV-403-1 SURV-403-2 SURV-403-3 SURV-403-4
01 `K `BB `THP AVILMEM
02 `N-E `BD `TDC BAUD
03 `S-E `DD `LOAD BIT?
04 `S-W `PERPO `SAVE CF35
05 `N-W `PTDIR `OLDJOB DATA?
06 `OUTPUT `ID `*JOB DNLD
07 `NN `IP `SRDM HAPPREC
08 `TR `LP `RRDM HCRFLAS
09 `COORTR `IE `COORST HCRFLD
10 `PINV `RC `JOBS HDELREC
11 `SSSTO `IC `BACKS HEMDIR
12 `*SSTO `IT `TRAVRS HEMDIRX
13 `*PP `LR `*HI HFLSIZE
14 `IN `IR `SIDES HGETREC
15 `CX `CURV `O HGETRX
16 `TRASTO `AUTO `R HGETX
17 `*TRSTO `REP `DEFLT HINSREC
18 `PTRA `SYS `DEFRT HRCLPT
19 `*NXTNO `GETPTX `дRT HSAVERX
20 `INVERS `CTR `дLT HSAVEX
21 `*INV `METER `W HSETPT
22 `ATB `EDM `DESC? HSETPTA
23 `BTA `PPTS `ZS LIZOFF
24 `*BTA `CRIS `VSLOP LIZON
25 `*AZ `PTOP `ZSLOP LIZONXY
26 `DMS `PRAW `*ZHD NIKIN
27 `T `*RAW `STORE NIKOFF
28 `TRA `PREA `*STORE NIKN
29 `*TRA `PREASL `*ST NIKOUT
30 `OCCUPY `PREC `TS PARITY
31 `PBEG `SUN `NOTE RMTCMD
32 `PTRCL `AV `DELETE RS232DN
33 `*PRCL `GRID `CR RS232UP
34 `ASWC `SSW `NEXTNO SF35
35 `BSWC STATUS
36 `ATOC STOPBIT
37 `ASWB UPLD
38 `PRTPT WORDLEN
39 `ACRES CF33
40 `STASTO FNDHDR
41 `STAKE INNUM
42 `STK OFFIO
43 `*STK ONIO
44 `RDMPTS TOPCOFF
45 `RDMRCL TOPCN
46 `RR TOPCOUT
47 `TFR CLEAR
48 `TFRM SPEED
49 `RPSTK HPURFL
50 `JOBNAM XQMENU
51 `3P OUTAX
52 `*3P INAX
53 `AA GOTOA
54 `OFFSET OUTB
55 `ENDA POP
56 `CY `FILE
57 `TCY `RW
58 `DA
59 `DW
==========================================================
-> TP2243.ROM TP2244.ROM TI2023.ROM TI2024.ROM
-- ------------ ------------ ------------ ------------
FN XROM 08,FN XROM 09,FN XROM 05,FN XROM 12,FN
-- ------------ ------------ ------------ ------------
00 PLOT-224-3 PLOT-224-4 INST-202-3 INST-202-4
01 `HALC `NT `NIKON POP
02 `HALD `EX `LIETZ ZECMD
03 `AC `DELET `TOPCON `T
04 `HT `NE `KERN `*TRA
05 `*C `VTX `PENTAX `PBEG
06 `*DMS `TEXT `WILD `*PRCL
07 `SCS `HNOTE `ZEISS `*PINV
08 `OCPY `HTX `SSHOT `*HI
09 `PTP `NA `TRAVERS `*ZHD
10 `HP `*NE `*DA `DESC?
11 `HPP `*HM `*HA `*STORE
12 `HPO `ADMS `NSTAK `STASTO
13 `TXT `AI `FS `*STK
14 `HIL `AF `*RPST `OFSTK
15 `CALLS `HDIG `SP `PCUT
16 `HDC `TXTDIR `DW `*CF
17 `CA `DRAW `DA `SLSTK
18 `HET `ASET
19 `HPINIT `HIC
20 `SLANT `HIB
21 `T `HIA
22 `TRPLT `FP
23 `TR `ROT
24 `*RPR `TD
25 `RR `BOR
26 `*PP `RPC
27 `IN `HICONT
28 `*NXTNO `DRC
29 `*TRA `*DCL
30 `PBEG `*DCC
31 `*PRCL `ROTEXT
32 `LETTER `PCOR
33 `CHRSIZ `SAVER
34 `CHRSIZX `LOADR
35 `DEGC `SAVET
36 `SEARCH `LOADT
37 `ROTXY
38 `POSPX
39 `CSA
40 `*RPPS
41 `XSEC
42 `ORGIN
==========================================================
Best regards,
Sylvain
Hi all,
NutIP is an amazing contribution of Khanh-Dang Nguyen Thu-Lam :
Originated there in 2009.
Khanh-Dang website still hosts the 1A Rom you are seeking
here.
Etienne
(05-31-2015 04:15 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2015 10:06 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote: [ -> ]So two down, another 55+ to go... who's next?
Hello Ángel,
I have posted here the content of the TDS CO-OP 41 kit that I own.
The zip file contains the following documents ...
Code:
TDS CO-OP 41 Document List.txt
TDS CO-OP 41 Instrument Module Addendum.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Instrument Module User Manual.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Modules Image 5K LIF.dat
TDS CO-OP 41 Modules Image 8K ROM.zip
TDS CO-OP 41 Modules Image Catalog.txt
TDS CO-OP 41 Picture Front.jpg
TDS CO-OP 41 Picture Kit.jpg
TDS CO-OP 41 Picture Top.jpg
TDS CO-OP 41 Plotter Module Addendum.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Plotter Module User Manual.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Surveying Module Reference Manual.pdf
Best regards,
Sylvain
Way to go Sylvain! - not only you're a great technical resource to this forum but also kind enough to have such gracious gesture, it's a great stuff - enough to make you wish to be a surveyor ;-)
Many thanks indeed - hopefully your example spreads and we get more contributions.
Merci bien.
Cheers,
'AM
Is there also a ROM image for the interface or is it only HP-IL and are all commands are in the modules?
BtW: There are different versions of these modules:
SURV 403-1/2/3/4
SURV 405-1/2/3/4
INST-115-1 / INST-115-2
INST-202-3 / INST-202-4
PLOT-224-1/2
PLOT-324-1/2
All ROMs came in ZEPROMs.
You mean SKWID INC Barcode Plus?
As I remember there was a proto image only at a guy you know very well.. I try to contact him....
(05-31-2015 04:15 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: [ -> ]-- ------------ ------------ ------------ ------------
FN XROM 04,FN XROM 10,FN XROM 31,FN XROM 30,FN
-- ------------ ------------ ------------ ------------
00 SURV-403-1 SURV-403-2 SURV-403-3 SURV-403-4
-- ------------ ------------ ------------ ------------
FN XROM 08,FN XROM 09,FN XROM 05,FN XROM 12,FN
-- ------------ ------------ ------------ ------------
00 PLOT-224-3 PLOT-224-4 INST-202-3 INST-202-4
(05-31-2015 06:34 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]BtW: There are different versions of these modules:
SURV 403-1/2/3/4
SURV 405-1/2/3/4
INST-115-1 / INST-115-2
INST-202-3 / INST-202-4
PLOT-224-1/2
PLOT-324-1/2
I have ROM images of the following:
Code:
INST-110-1 * XROM ID 5 call XROM 30 & 12
INST-111-2 * XROM ID 12 call XROM 30
SCDOT 2/6 * XROM ID 11 call XROM 4, 5, 10, 12, 30, 31
SCDOT-FRANK * XROM ID 6 call XROM 4, 10, 11, 30, 31
SURV-503-1 * XROM ID 4 call XROM 10, 30, 31
SURV-503-2 * XROM ID 10 call XROM 4, 30, 31
SURV-503-3 * XROM ID 31 call XROM 04, 10, 30
SURV-403-4 * XROM ID 30
I don't have the original Zeprom modules, these images were given to me privately by a friend of mine, who was planning to release them of TOS with documentation, so I will not post the images myself.
But, at least, you know that these versions exist and are kept in a safe place!
The CO-OP 41 is a fascinating series of modules, with so many features and different versions.
J-F
(06-01-2015 08:18 PM)J-F Garnier Wrote: [ -> ]I have ROM images of the following:
Code:
INST-110-1 * XROM ID 5 call XROM 30 & 12
INST-111-2 * XROM ID 12 call XROM 30
SCDOT 2/6 * XROM ID 11 call XROM 4, 5, 10, 12, 30, 31
SCDOT-FRANK * XROM ID 6 call XROM 4, 10, 11, 30, 31
SURV-503-1 * XROM ID 4 call XROM 10, 30, 31
SURV-503-2 * XROM ID 10 call XROM 4, 30, 31
SURV-503-3 * XROM ID 31 call XROM 04, 10, 30
SURV-403-4 * XROM ID 30
Perfect J-F, that' s exactly the infos I need: CAT2, XROM.
What is SCDOT?
(06-01-2015 08:23 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]What is SCDOT?
I don't know, but I see in your database CO-OP 41 modules called 'Georgia Dot' and 'GaDot'. Is 'Dot' meaning something?
J-F
DOT often refers to the Department of Transportation for US states and governmental authorities.
(06-01-2015 08:30 PM)J-F Garnier Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2015 08:23 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]What is SCDOT?
I don't know, but I see in your database CO-OP 41 modules called 'Georgia Dot' and 'GaDot'. Is 'Dot' meaning something?
J-F
Hehehe, I see in my database a lot of extensions and shortcut I do not know