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About 10 years ago I started with a database listing all HP-41 modules, EPROMs, ROM images und devices including software. As i was a bit "off" during the last 5-6 years this list is terribly outdated. I want to bring this list into shape, but I need your help. Please drop me all missing information, modules, images, .....
I gave my best, to list even different software versions separately. Please help us to update the list.There are two attachments: First, the newest version of the module database and second a empty sheet in which you can fill the missing informations. Please send me your filled sheet to museum@hp-collection.org
(04-22-2015 06:13 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]About 10 years ago I started with a database listing all HP-41 modules, EPROMs, ROM images und devices including software. As i was a bit "off" during the last 5-6 years this list is terribly outdated. I want to bring this list into shape, but I need your help. Please drop me all missing information, modules, images, .....
I gave my best, to list even different software versions separately. Please help us to update the list.There are two attachments: First, the newest version of the module database and second a empty sheet in which you can fill the missing informations. Please send me your filled sheet to museum@hp-collection.org

http://systemyde.com/hp41/manuals.html

then click on 41CL Memory Reference (pdf) updated 04/12/2015
(04-22-2015 06:27 PM)Ángel Martin Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2015 06:13 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]About 10 years ago I started with a database listing all HP-41 modules, EPROMs, ROM images und devices including software. As i was a bit "off" during the last 5-6 years this list is terribly outdated. I want to bring this list into shape, but I need your help. Please drop me all missing information, modules, images, .....
I gave my best, to list even different software versions separately. Please help us to update the list.There are two attachments: First, the newest version of the module database and second a empty sheet in which you can fill the missing informations. Please send me your filled sheet to museum@hp-collection.org

http://systemyde.com/hp41/manuals.html

then click on 41CL Memory Reference (pdf) updated 04/12/2015

Angel
Thanks for the reply. I will have a look at this list, even mine seems to be much more extensive.
You are (one of) the most productive programmer for HP-41 images. It would really help us a lot if you could fill out my empty sheet. I can not exactily say what version of what image was realeased by you and I would really like to set them all in the list. There are also some informations I can not set in the database as long as I do not have the image.
Finally I streamed through the full internet plus the CL reference (thanks Angel) for "new" HP-41 software that is not in my database yet. Uff, I can tell you, the list of new entries was loooooong, but finally I think, I have a first new release ready soon. But therefore I have some questions some of you might answer: my CL is a BETA unit and not in use, so I do not have a lot of these software images listed in the reference:

41CL Memory Functions 1B
BBS ROM
BGUG ROM
Blackjack MAX -2E
Buderus-3 Module
CalTrans Survey ROM
Chemical Engineering Solutions
Fluid Dynamics Solutions
ETSII3B ROM
ETSII4B ROM
ETSII5A ROM
ETSII6A ROM
For Fee ROM
Funstuff ROM
Geometric Solver ROM
HEPAX 1E ROM (only version E is missing)
HVAC Solutions
Laplace Transform ROM
Math Programs Collection
Modified Advantage ROM
NutIP TCP/IP ROM 1A
Program Generator ROM
PSOF ROM
SI ROM
Solar Engineering Solutions
Spreadsheet ROM
TVM Module 1E
Vegas -1C ROM

Does someone has images (.MOD prefered) of some / all of these? I think you could extract them easily from a CL. I didn't found them in the web, sorry.
{don't want to hijack topic, if this needs a separate thread that is fine}

Don't clutter up the list (which is immensely fascinating, BTW) with minutia, but if anyone knows of some 'useful' utility type 4K ROMs (be thinking more along the lines of ZenROM, not Home Management) that are internally addressed to the upper block of a port I'd be mighty appreciative.

I suspect this is going to be a very short list, possibly the ZenROM is the only one ?

Regards, and thanx!!
(05-28-2015 10:12 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]Finally I streamed through the full internet plus the CL reference (thanks Angel) for "new" HP-41 software that is not in my database yet. Uff, I can tell you, the list of new entries was loooooong, but finally I think, I have a first new release ready soon. But therefore I have some questions some of you might answer: my CL is a BETA unit and not in use, so I do not have a lot of these software images listed in the reference:

41CL Memory Functions 1B
BBS ROM
BGUG ROM
Blackjack MAX -2E
Buderus-3 Module
CalTrans Survey ROM
Chemical Engineering Solutions
Fluid Dynamics Solutions
ETSII3B ROM
ETSII4B ROM
ETSII5A ROM
ETSII6A ROM
For Fee ROM
Funstuff ROM
Geometric Solver ROM
HEPAX 1E ROM (only version E is missing)
HVAC Solutions
Laplace Transform ROM
Math Programs Collection
Modified Advantage ROM
NutIP TCP/IP ROM 1A
Program Generator ROM
PSOF ROM
SI ROM
Solar Engineering Solutions
Spreadsheet ROM
TVM Module 1E
Vegas -1C ROM

Does someone has images (.MOD prefered) of some / all of these? I think you could extract them easily from a CL. I didn't found them in the web, sorry.

Matthias,

I'll send you copies of all those modules listed above if you send me the following ones:

Code:

1    3M Module
2    Appraiser Module 1.3
3    Appraiser Module 1.4
4    Bausparkasse Schwäbisch Hall
5    BeechCraft Super King Air 200 and 200C
6    Boeing B-52D FSC
7    Boeing B-52H FSC
8    Boeing E-6A W&B 0
9    Boeing KC-135 FSC
10    C141B FSC
11    C5A FSC - V2
12    C5A FSC - V1
13    Cessna Citation III
14    COGO41
15    COGO Rom
16    Demopoulos T.M-GEODETIC
17    Demopoulos TOPO-SURVEY
18    Dr Zign Racetrack
19    DRC 
20    Financial Planner
21    Forecaster 1
22    Forecaster 2
23    Forecaster 3
24    Gunzen Howitzer FH70 / M107
25    Handy Compact ROM
26    Hayes Surveying SunShooter
27    McDonnell Douglas C-9B P-S APAC
28    McDonnell Douglas KC-10 LMC 1A
29    McDonnell Douglas KC-10 LMC 1B
30    McDonnell Douglas KC-10 LMC 2B
31    Mead Johnson Enfamil
32    Mead Johnson Prosobee
33    Mercantile Mutual Live Plus/Investment Pack
34    Military Engineering
35    MORTAR
36    Morzen System ROM
37    Morzen ROM
38    MPCS-6
39    Mücke Software IBK
40    MW Software Brøtje1
41    MW Software Buderus I
42    MW Software KERMI NT2000
43    MW Software Köln 1
44    MW Software Köln 2
45    MW Software Köln 5 (Schornsteinberechnungen)
46    MW Software Oventrop Ventil-Modul + Cards
47    MW Software Thermoval Modul
48    MW Software Velta Modul
49    MW Software WILO Pumpenmodul
50    NAVCOM (Educalc #45)
51    Pictorial RomPower BVS
52    Pictorial RomPower CMA
53    Pictorial RomPower HPP
54    Pictorial RomPower RNA
55    Retail Car Sales (Educalc #45)
56    RHODESYSTEMS II
57    Schenck Auswucht- Modul CAB41
58    SDS Rom
59    SMI CO-OP 41 Surveying Module
60    SMI CO-OP 41 Surveying Module Georgia Dot
61    SMI CO-OP 41 Surveying Module GaDot
62    SMI COGO (Port 4)
63    SMI Sun Shooter Co-op Module
64    SMI Surveyor-41th Co-op Module
65    SMI Surveyor-41th Plotter Module
66    TDS CO-OP 41 Instrument module
67    TDS CO-OP 41 Plotter module
68    TDS CO-OP 41 Surveying module
69    TDS CO-OP 41 Surveying module
70    Tinker AFB Module
71    USPS Delivery Service Module
72    UWE Mathe 1+2, ALLG 3, ETECH 4
73    Valuation 1
74    WPN Effects
75    ZenNavPac II
76    ZenNavPac II Evaluation
77    Seapipe

deal??

'AM
Quote:Matthias,

I'll send you copies of all those modules listed above if you send me the following ones:

Code:

1    3M Module
2    Appraiser Module 1.3
3    Appraiser Module 1.4
4    Bausparkasse Schwäbisch Hall
5    BeechCraft Super King Air 200 and 200C
6    Boeing B-52D FSC
7    Boeing B-52H FSC
8    Boeing E-6A W&B 0
9    Boeing KC-135 FSC
10    C141B FSC
11    C5A FSC - V2
12    C5A FSC - V1
13    Cessna Citation III
14    COGO41
15    COGO Rom
16    Demopoulos T.M-GEODETIC
17    Demopoulos TOPO-SURVEY
18    Dr Zign Racetrack
19    DRC 
20    Financial Planner
21    Forecaster 1
22    Forecaster 2
23    Forecaster 3
24    Gunzen Howitzer FH70 / M107
25    Handy Compact ROM
26    Hayes Surveying SunShooter
27    McDonnell Douglas C-9B P-S APAC
28    McDonnell Douglas KC-10 LMC 1A
29    McDonnell Douglas KC-10 LMC 1B
30    McDonnell Douglas KC-10 LMC 2B
31    Mead Johnson Enfamil
32    Mead Johnson Prosobee
33    Mercantile Mutual Live Plus/Investment Pack
34    Military Engineering
35    MORTAR
36    Morzen System ROM
37    Morzen ROM
38    MPCS-6
39    Mücke Software IBK
40    MW Software Brøtje1
41    MW Software Buderus I
42    MW Software KERMI NT2000
43    MW Software Köln 1
44    MW Software Köln 2
45    MW Software Köln 5 (Schornsteinberechnungen)
46    MW Software Oventrop Ventil-Modul + Cards
47    MW Software Thermoval Modul
48    MW Software Velta Modul
49    MW Software WILO Pumpenmodul
50    NAVCOM (Educalc #45)
51    Pictorial RomPower BVS
52    Pictorial RomPower CMA
53    Pictorial RomPower HPP
54    Pictorial RomPower RNA
55    Retail Car Sales (Educalc #45)
56    RHODESYSTEMS II
57    Schenck Auswucht- Modul CAB41
58    SDS Rom
59    SMI CO-OP 41 Surveying Module
60    SMI CO-OP 41 Surveying Module Georgia Dot
61    SMI CO-OP 41 Surveying Module GaDot
62    SMI COGO (Port 4)
63    SMI Sun Shooter Co-op Module
64    SMI Surveyor-41th Co-op Module
65    SMI Surveyor-41th Plotter Module
66    TDS CO-OP 41 Instrument module
67    TDS CO-OP 41 Plotter module
68    TDS CO-OP 41 Surveying module
69    TDS CO-OP 41 Surveying module
70    Tinker AFB Module
71    USPS Delivery Service Module
72    UWE Mathe 1+2, ALLG 3, ETECH 4
73    Valuation 1
74    WPN Effects
75    ZenNavPac II
76    ZenNavPac II Evaluation
77    Seapipe

deal??

Just notices, that severals of these images are abailable in the web, at TOS and on other site... Maybe I use a some other namesfor a module than you. Thats exactly the advantage of the HP-41 module database: the modules are listed with their CATs, XROMs, .. so its easy to compare.
(05-30-2015 06:56 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]Just notices, that severals of these images are abailable in the web, at TOS and on other site... Maybe I use a some other namesfor a module than you. Thats exactly the advantage of the HP-41 module database: the modules are listed with their CATs, XROMs, .. so its easy to compare.

Good try but unfortunately that's not the case - they're not available and I guess they won't be for a long time... too bad.
0x188 is the FORECASTER1 ROM
0x189 is the FORECASTER2 ROM
...

Best Regards
Matthias
(05-31-2015 08:01 AM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]0x188 is the FORECASTER1 ROM
0x189 is the FORECASTER2 ROM
...


Sure, I know those two very well because they were contributed by Poul Kaarup as response to my call for a shared library amongst the community members.

http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-1629.html

So two down, another 55+ to go... who's next?

For the record, all the ROM images I have are in the CL library - don;t mean those I wrote, but also the purchased ones.

A personal choice, naturally...
(05-31-2015 10:06 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote: [ -> ]So two down, another 55+ to go... who's next?

Hello Ángel,

I have posted here the content of the TDS CO-OP 41 kit that I own.

The zip file contains the following documents ...
Code:

TDS CO-OP 41 Document List.txt
TDS CO-OP 41 Instrument Module Addendum.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Instrument Module User Manual.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Modules Image 5K LIF.dat
TDS CO-OP 41 Modules Image 8K ROM.zip
TDS CO-OP 41 Modules Image Catalog.txt
TDS CO-OP 41 Picture Front.jpg
TDS CO-OP 41 Picture Kit.jpg
TDS CO-OP 41 Picture Top.jpg
TDS CO-OP 41 Plotter Module Addendum.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Plotter Module User Manual.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Surveying Module Reference Manual.pdf

and it contains the following modules images ...

Code:

==========================================================
                  TDS CO-OP 41 MODULES                    
==========================================================

==========================================================
->  TS4031.ROM    TS4032.ROM    TS4033.ROM    TS4034.ROM  
--  ------------  ------------  ------------  ------------
FN  XROM 04,FN    XROM 10,FN    XROM 31,FN    XROM 30,FN  
--  ------------  ------------  ------------  ------------
00  SURV-403-1    SURV-403-2    SURV-403-3    SURV-403-4  
01  `K            `BB           `THP          AVILMEM     
02  `N-E          `BD           `TDC          BAUD        
03  `S-E          `DD           `LOAD         BIT?        
04  `S-W          `PERPO        `SAVE         CF35        
05  `N-W          `PTDIR        `OLDJOB       DATA?       
06  `OUTPUT       `ID           `*JOB         DNLD        
07  `NN           `IP           `SRDM         HAPPREC     
08  `TR           `LP           `RRDM         HCRFLAS     
09  `COORTR       `IE           `COORST       HCRFLD      
10  `PINV         `RC           `JOBS         HDELREC     
11  `SSSTO        `IC           `BACKS        HEMDIR      
12  `*SSTO        `IT           `TRAVRS       HEMDIRX     
13  `*PP          `LR           `*HI          HFLSIZE     
14  `IN           `IR           `SIDES        HGETREC     
15  `CX           `CURV         `O            HGETRX      
16  `TRASTO       `AUTO         `R            HGETX       
17  `*TRSTO       `REP          `DEFLT        HINSREC     
18  `PTRA         `SYS          `DEFRT        HRCLPT      
19  `*NXTNO       `GETPTX       `дRT          HSAVERX     
20  `INVERS       `CTR          `дLT          HSAVEX      
21  `*INV         `METER        `W            HSETPT      
22  `ATB          `EDM          `DESC?        HSETPTA     
23  `BTA          `PPTS         `ZS           LIZOFF      
24  `*BTA         `CRIS         `VSLOP        LIZON       
25  `*AZ          `PTOP         `ZSLOP        LIZONXY     
26  `DMS          `PRAW         `*ZHD         NIKIN       
27  `T            `*RAW         `STORE        NIKOFF      
28  `TRA          `PREA         `*STORE       NIKN        
29  `*TRA         `PREASL       `*ST          NIKOUT      
30  `OCCUPY       `PREC         `TS           PARITY      
31  `PBEG         `SUN          `NOTE         RMTCMD      
32  `PTRCL        `AV           `DELETE       RS232DN     
33  `*PRCL        `GRID         `CR           RS232UP     
34  `ASWC         `SSW          `NEXTNO       SF35        
35  `BSWC                                     STATUS      
36  `ATOC                                     STOPBIT     
37  `ASWB                                     UPLD        
38  `PRTPT                                    WORDLEN     
39  `ACRES                                    CF33        
40  `STASTO                                   FNDHDR      
41  `STAKE                                    INNUM       
42  `STK                                      OFFIO       
43  `*STK                                     ONIO        
44  `RDMPTS                                   TOPCOFF     
45  `RDMRCL                                   TOPCN       
46  `RR                                       TOPCOUT     
47  `TFR                                      CLEAR       
48  `TFRM                                     SPEED       
49  `RPSTK                                    HPURFL      
50  `JOBNAM                                   XQMENU      
51  `3P                                       OUTAX       
52  `*3P                                      INAX        
53  `AA                                       GOTOA       
54  `OFFSET                                   OUTB        
55  `ENDA                                     POP         
56  `CY                                       `FILE       
57  `TCY                                      `RW         
58                                            `DA         
59                                            `DW         
==========================================================
->  TP2243.ROM    TP2244.ROM    TI2023.ROM    TI2024.ROM  
--  ------------  ------------  ------------  ------------
FN  XROM 08,FN    XROM 09,FN    XROM 05,FN    XROM 12,FN  
--  ------------  ------------  ------------  ------------
00  PLOT-224-3    PLOT-224-4    INST-202-3    INST-202-4  
01  `HALC         `NT           `NIKON        POP         
02  `HALD         `EX           `LIETZ        ZECMD       
03  `AC           `DELET        `TOPCON       `T          
04  `HT           `NE           `KERN         `*TRA       
05  `*C           `VTX          `PENTAX       `PBEG       
06  `*DMS         `TEXT         `WILD         `*PRCL      
07  `SCS          `HNOTE        `ZEISS        `*PINV      
08  `OCPY         `HTX          `SSHOT        `*HI        
09  `PTP          `NA           `TRAVERS      `*ZHD       
10  `HP           `*NE          `*DA          `DESC?      
11  `HPP          `*HM          `*HA          `*STORE     
12  `HPO          `ADMS         `NSTAK        `STASTO     
13  `TXT          `AI           `FS           `*STK       
14  `HIL          `AF           `*RPST        `OFSTK      
15  `CALLS        `HDIG         `SP           `PCUT       
16  `HDC          `TXTDIR       `DW           `*CF        
17  `CA           `DRAW         `DA           `SLSTK      
18  `HET          `ASET                                   
19  `HPINIT       `HIC                                    
20  `SLANT        `HIB                                    
21  `T            `HIA                                    
22  `TRPLT        `FP                                     
23  `TR           `ROT                                    
24  `*RPR         `TD                                     
25  `RR           `BOR                                    
26  `*PP          `RPC                                    
27  `IN           `HICONT                                 
28  `*NXTNO       `DRC                                    
29  `*TRA         `*DCL                                   
30  `PBEG         `*DCC                                   
31  `*PRCL        `ROTEXT                                 
32  `LETTER       `PCOR                                   
33  `CHRSIZ       `SAVER                                  
34  `CHRSIZX      `LOADR                                  
35  `DEGC         `SAVET                                  
36  `SEARCH       `LOADT                                  
37  `ROTXY                                                
38  `POSPX                                                
39  `CSA                                                  
40  `*RPPS                                                
41  `XSEC                                                 
42  `ORGIN                                                
==========================================================

Best regards,

Sylvain
Hi all,

NutIP is an amazing contribution of Khanh-Dang Nguyen Thu-Lam :

Originated there in 2009.

Khanh-Dang website still hosts the 1A Rom you are seeking here.

Etienne
(05-31-2015 04:15 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-31-2015 10:06 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote: [ -> ]So two down, another 55+ to go... who's next?

Hello Ángel,

I have posted here the content of the TDS CO-OP 41 kit that I own.

The zip file contains the following documents ...
Code:

TDS CO-OP 41 Document List.txt
TDS CO-OP 41 Instrument Module Addendum.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Instrument Module User Manual.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Modules Image 5K LIF.dat
TDS CO-OP 41 Modules Image 8K ROM.zip
TDS CO-OP 41 Modules Image Catalog.txt
TDS CO-OP 41 Picture Front.jpg
TDS CO-OP 41 Picture Kit.jpg
TDS CO-OP 41 Picture Top.jpg
TDS CO-OP 41 Plotter Module Addendum.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Plotter Module User Manual.pdf
TDS CO-OP 41 Surveying Module Reference Manual.pdf

Best regards,

Sylvain

Way to go Sylvain! - not only you're a great technical resource to this forum but also kind enough to have such gracious gesture, it's a great stuff - enough to make you wish to be a surveyor ;-)

Many thanks indeed - hopefully your example spreads and we get more contributions.
Merci bien.

Cheers,
'AM
Is there also a ROM image for the interface or is it only HP-IL and are all commands are in the modules?
BtW: There are different versions of these modules:

SURV 403-1/2/3/4
SURV 405-1/2/3/4
INST-115-1 / INST-115-2
INST-202-3 / INST-202-4
PLOT-224-1/2
PLOT-324-1/2

All ROMs came in ZEPROMs.
You mean SKWID INC Barcode Plus?
As I remember there was a proto image only at a guy you know very well.. I try to contact him....
(05-31-2015 04:15 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: [ -> ]-- ------------ ------------ ------------ ------------
FN XROM 04,FN XROM 10,FN XROM 31,FN XROM 30,FN
-- ------------ ------------ ------------ ------------
00 SURV-403-1 SURV-403-2 SURV-403-3 SURV-403-4

-- ------------ ------------ ------------ ------------
FN XROM 08,FN XROM 09,FN XROM 05,FN XROM 12,FN
-- ------------ ------------ ------------ ------------
00 PLOT-224-3 PLOT-224-4 INST-202-3 INST-202-4

(05-31-2015 06:34 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]BtW: There are different versions of these modules:
SURV 403-1/2/3/4
SURV 405-1/2/3/4
INST-115-1 / INST-115-2
INST-202-3 / INST-202-4
PLOT-224-1/2
PLOT-324-1/2

I have ROM images of the following:
Code:

INST-110-1        * XROM ID 5       call XROM 30 & 12
INST-111-2        * XROM ID 12      call XROM 30
SCDOT 2/6         * XROM ID 11      call XROM 4, 5, 10, 12, 30, 31
SCDOT-FRANK       * XROM ID 6       call XROM 4, 10, 11, 30, 31
SURV-503-1        * XROM ID 4       call XROM 10, 30, 31    
SURV-503-2        * XROM ID 10      call XROM 4, 30, 31
SURV-503-3        * XROM ID 31      call XROM 04, 10, 30
SURV-403-4        * XROM ID 30

I don't have the original Zeprom modules, these images were given to me privately by a friend of mine, who was planning to release them of TOS with documentation, so I will not post the images myself.
But, at least, you know that these versions exist and are kept in a safe place!

The CO-OP 41 is a fascinating series of modules, with so many features and different versions.

J-F
(06-01-2015 08:18 PM)J-F Garnier Wrote: [ -> ]I have ROM images of the following:
Code:

INST-110-1        * XROM ID 5       call XROM 30 & 12
INST-111-2        * XROM ID 12      call XROM 30
SCDOT 2/6         * XROM ID 11      call XROM 4, 5, 10, 12, 30, 31
SCDOT-FRANK       * XROM ID 6       call XROM 4, 10, 11, 30, 31
SURV-503-1        * XROM ID 4       call XROM 10, 30, 31    
SURV-503-2        * XROM ID 10      call XROM 4, 30, 31
SURV-503-3        * XROM ID 31      call XROM 04, 10, 30
SURV-403-4        * XROM ID 30

Perfect J-F, that' s exactly the infos I need: CAT2, XROM.
What is SCDOT?
(06-01-2015 08:23 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]What is SCDOT?

I don't know, but I see in your database CO-OP 41 modules called 'Georgia Dot' and 'GaDot'. Is 'Dot' meaning something?

J-F
DOT often refers to the Department of Transportation for US states and governmental authorities.
(06-01-2015 08:30 PM)J-F Garnier Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-01-2015 08:23 PM)HP-Collection Wrote: [ -> ]What is SCDOT?

I don't know, but I see in your database CO-OP 41 modules called 'Georgia Dot' and 'GaDot'. Is 'Dot' meaning something?

J-F

Hehehe, I see in my database a lot of extensions and shortcut I do not know Wink
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