I have been reading the RCL 40 book with great interest. Amazing and unique stories from all those involved in the HP calculator products. One very interesting writeup is from Jim Donnely who describes HP's "Hall of Fame," a series of mounted product models arranged by family and chronological order. He talks about HP employees bringing their families to the display and showing them, which models they themselves had been a part of their production. The wall also included some peripherals and even programming pacs.
Does anyone have a picture or reference to that Hall of Fame? This would have been really interesting to see. Unfortunately, it was dismantled at some point, from what I read.
My website displays HPs in chronological order (
https://spyropoulos.net/), but I am sure seeing them on a long wall would have been quite the experience.
(02-04-2023 05:33 PM)TellyS Wrote: [ -> ]My website displays HPs in chronological order (https://spyropoulos.net/), but I am sure seeing them on a long wall would have been quite the experience.
What a nice and well designed site! Congratulations!
Bookmarked.
Cheers
(02-04-2023 06:33 PM)Mark H. Shin Wrote: [ -> ]I noticed you are missing the new HP-12C (ARM emulation of 12C ROM) release on or about 06-28-2008.
Thank you. I never owned that one. All those are (were, in some cases) my own that I have photographed myself. I may have to look for that one.
Wow, that is a great site!
One minor point. The HP-48SX price at introduction was US$ 350 (list price), not 250. I remember having to sell my HP-28S (plus extra books & leather case) to help fund the purchase my HP-48SX. I think I paid $275 for my HP-48SX at Educalc in 1991. That was a lot of money for me back then.
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HP48 SX Related Products as of August 1, 1990
(From list compiled by EduCalc)
Note: Entries without a stock number are based on pre-release information.
EduCALC
No. Type Stock No. Description From When List Price
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1. Calc HP48SX Scientific Expandible HP Stock $350.00 $274.95
(02-04-2023 08:16 PM)Steve Simpkin Wrote: [ -> ]One minor point. The HP-48SX price at introduction was US$ 350 (list price), not 250.
I bought one around that time too. I wish I could remember how much I had paid. But, thank you. I will correct it.
Awesome gallery! The timeline reminds me a lot of the one on
https://my.calcs.quest.
Some more corrections -- the Prime came out in 2013, not 2015. The 49G came out in 1999, not 2000. I think the 34S was 2011, or at least the overlays like the one pictured didn't come out until June 2011. The 48G+ was not 1993, but I think 1998 (it replaced the 48G when 32 KB memory chips became hard to get). The 35s was from 2007, not 2008.
I'm impressed with the completeness of your collection. Some others that you are missing are the second version of the 17bII+ (very different design, in silver), the second version of the 32SII (different color scheme) the second version of the 12c Platinum (looks just like the Anniversary Edition, just without the text, though), and the 12c Prestige, as well as some of the lower-end models (8s, 10s+, 300s series). You also only have the original Prime, not the later color scheme (introduced on Revision C and retained for the G2).
(02-04-2023 08:43 PM)Eric Rechlin Wrote: [ -> ]Some more corrections -- the Prime came out in 2013, not 2015. The 49G came out in 1999, not 2000. I think the 34S was 2011, or at least the overlays like the one pictured didn't come out until June 2011. The 48G+ was not 1993, but I think 1998 (it replaced the 48G when 32 KB memory chips became hard to get). The 35s was from 2007, not 2008.
I'm impressed with the completeness of your collection. Some others that you are missing are the second version of the 17bII+ (very different design, in silver), the second version of the 32SII (different color scheme) the second version of the 12c Platinum (looks just like the Anniversary Edition, just without the text, though), and the 12c Prestige, as well as some of the lower-end models (8s, 10s+, 300s series). You also only have the original Prime, not the later color scheme (introduced on Revision C and retained for the G2).
Thank you for the information. I will check and correct. The missing ones are the ones that I never owned (and therefore never photographed). Someday, I may buy the next Prime.
Thank you all for your comments and corrections. I gave the whole HP series another look and corrected the errors you pointed out. Most dates come from the "Guide to HP Calculators and Computers," the 2007 printing. Many were cross-checked, but I guess I missed a few.
Thanks to Mark's help, I was able to locate the latest version of the HP 12C, running at 48 MHz. An impressive execution speed, completing 87,000 iterations of + GTO 01 in one minute.
I was also able to locate a 1999 (?) Agilent or Marvell version - the one with a single CR2032 battery.
Thanks to your help, my website now is more complete! I will soon add more content, including images of the back of the calculators that make some versions more recognizable, along with the above-mentioned benchmark.
Telly
Congratulations. Excellent photos. Pedro
We had something similar at the HP facility in Tomball TX. Basically a series of glass cases with products and descriptions. I remember seeing an HP-35 and HP-65 in there with lots of other equipment like old oscilloscopes. -J
Does anyone know how long it takes for a new post to show up?
I'm a new member, but I've tried to post the same thing twice and a quick message flies by about posts being moderated? Does that mean approved by the forum admin?
Sorry to ask this here on this thread, but didn't know where else to ask.
(02-11-2023 05:43 PM)John Garza (3665) Wrote: [ -> ]We had something similar at the HP facility in Tomball TX. Basically a series of glass cases with products and descriptions. I remember seeing an HP-35 and HP-65 in there with lots of other equipment like old oscilloscopes. -J
Cool. Any pictures, by any chance?
(02-11-2023 08:14 PM)timlodge912 Wrote: [ -> ]Does anyone know how long it takes for a new post to show up?
I'm a new member, but I've tried to post the same thing twice and a quick message flies by about posts being moderated? Does that mean approved by the forum admin?
Sorry to ask this here on this thread, but didn't know where else to ask.
Posts for new members are moderated, due to excessive number of SPAM accounts. Mods will usually approve such messages within a day, often much faster, it just depends on when we see them.
Welcome to MoHPC!
Hello everyone,
Thanks
TellyS for sharing with us your beautiful site.
I CTRL+D it!
The pictures are great and the scrolling timeline is a very good idea.
Though, if I may be permitted to do a few observations, I would say that :
* The HP-15C was not the "successor" of the HP-11C, but an additional upgraded model.
* As for the HP-28S, compared to the 28C, it also has brought the following features:
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COMB,
PERM (combination and permutation)
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DGTIZ (digitize points) and
→LCD,
LCD→ (graphic objects or GROB)
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POS, that already existed for strings, was extended to lists.
Cheers
(02-12-2023 05:27 PM)FLISZT Wrote: [ -> ]Though, if I may be permitted to do a few observations ...
Of course, you are permitted and much appreciated! Thank you for taking the time to point out discrepancies. I made all the changes you suggested.
I would have liked to play with my 48SX again, but somehow when I turn it off, I cannot power it on again. It's with great difficulty that it powers on again and, worse, I don't know what I did to get it to power on again.
Regards,
Telly
(02-12-2023 05:54 PM)TellyS Wrote: [ -> ] (02-12-2023 05:27 PM)FLISZT Wrote: [ -> ]Though, if I may be permitted to do a few observations ...
Of course, you are permitted and much appreciated! Thank you for taking the time to point out discrepancies. I made all the changes you suggested.
I would have liked to play with my 48SX again, but somehow when I turn it off, I cannot power it on again. It's with great difficulty that it powers on again and, worse, I don't know what I did to get it to power on again.
Regards,
Telly
Try applying pressure on the area between the top row of keys and the LCD while pressing the ON button.
(02-04-2023 05:33 PM)TellyS Wrote: [ -> ]Does anyone have a picture or reference to that Hall of Fame? This would have been really interesting to see. Unfortunately, it was dismantled at some point, from what I read.
I don't have any pictures and can't readily find a link to any, however the March-April 1994 edition of the Palmtop Paper's CD Infobase included an HP100/200LX formatted file that contained a textual description of the wall of fame. I've included it below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wallfame
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"Wall of Fame" Listing
[ Product numbers have not be standardized. ]
Frank Wales of Leeds, U.K. (<old email redacted>) provided this
information. The format of entries is based on the individual boards
along the HoF wall -- each paragraph represents the units on that
board. The entries are in board order away from the reception area
towards the building 3/4 conduit. The layout is:
[name on hall of fame board, a.k.a. series name]
model# codename launched $price (comment)
[CLASSIC]
35 72/7/1 395 (no name)
45 WIZARD 73/5/1 395
55 MERLIN 75/1/1 395 (duplicates 75D name)
65 SUPERSTAR 74/1/19 795
67 HAWKEYE 76/7/1 450
70 SCROOGE 74/8/1 275
80 73/2/1 395 (no name)
[WOODSTOCK]
29C BONNIE 77/7/1 195
27 SALAD 76/5/1 200
21 PUMPKIN 75/2/1 125
25C SQUISH 76/7/1 200
22 TURNIP 75/9/1 165
25 SQUASH 75/8/1 195
[TOPCAT]
91 FELIX 76/3/1 500
92 BOBCAT 77/7/1 625
97 KITTYHAWK 76/7/1 750
97S RICOCHET 77/12/1 1375
[STING]
10 KISS 77/7/1 175
19C CLYDE 77/9/1 345
[SPICE/SPIKE]
31E GINGER 78/5/1 60
32E THYME 78/7/1 80
33E SAGE 78/5/1 100
33C SAGE C 79/7/1 120
34C BASIL 79/7/1 150
37E PARSLEY 79/7/1 75
38E CHIVE 78/5/1 120
38C CHIVE C 79/7/1 150
[<NO NAME>]
01 CRICKET 78/7/1 695 (steel case & strap)
01 CRICKET 78/7/1 850 (gold-tone case & strap)
[COCONUT]
41C COCONUT 79/7/1 295
41CV SILVERBIRD 80/12/15 325
41CX HONEYNUT 83/10/1 325
82140A HYSTER 79/8/1 195 (card reader)
82153A WAND 80/6/6 125 (wand)
82143A HELIOS 79/8/1 350 (printer)
82120A HURRICANE 80/4/8 40 (rechargeable battery pack)
OPT 001 BLANKNUT 81/3/24 325 (custom 41/no white key legends)
[VOYAGER]
10C 0.5 82/9/2 80
11C 1.0 81/9/1 150
12C 1.0 81/9/1 135
15C 1.5 82/7/1 135
16C PR 82/7/1 150
[HP-IL]
82160A GRAPENUTS 81/12/14 125 (HP-IL module)
82161A FILBERT 81/12/14 550 (tape drive)
82162A SPECIAL K 81/12/14 495 (cereal printer :-))
82163A WALLABY 82/4/5 295 (video interface)
82164A KUKUINUT 83/5/1 295 (RS-232C interface)
82165A FOXNUT 82/5/10 395 (GPIO interface)
82166A PILBOX 81/12/14 395 (small GPIO converter)
82168A WOMBAT 83/6/1 495 (acoustic MODEM)
82169A NUTSHELL 83/3/1 395 (HP-IB interface)
[<NO NAME>]
71B TITAN 84/2/1 525
75C KANGAROO 82/9/15 995
75D MERLIN 84/2/1 1095 (duplicates 55 name)
82718A POD 84/7/1 875 (expansion pod)
82713A FALINE 83/3/1 495 (PMS)
[<NO NAME>]
18C CHAMPION 86/6/1 175
28C PALADIN 87/1/5 235
19B TYCOON 88/1/4 175
28S ORLANDO 88/1/4 235
82240A REDEYE 86/11/3 135 (IR printer)
[PIONEER]
17B TRADER 88/1/4 110
27S MENTOR 88/1/4 110
42S DAVINCI 88/10/31 120
14B MIDAS 88/10/31 79.95
22S PLATO 88/6/1 59.95
32S LEONARDO 88/6/1 69.95
10B ERNST 89/1/3 49.95
20S ERNI 89/1/3 49.95
21S MONTE CARLO 89/1/3 49.95
[<NO NAME>]
48SX CHARLEMAGNE 90/3/16 350
New on the list (supplied by Jim Donnelly):
48G ALCUIN 6/1/93 165
48GX HAMMER 6/1/93 350
95LX JAGUAR 4/23/91 699
For completeness, here are a few more products that are NOT on
the Hall of Fame, although the HP95LX is probably there by now.
model# codename launched price ($)
82182A phineas 81/12/14? ? (time module) %
82242A blinky 88? ? (41 IR printer module)
82210A hoover 90/10/15? 99.95 (HP41CV Emulator)
82211A flamberge 90/3/16 99.95 (Equation Library)
82240B visine ? ? (IR printer)
32SII nardo? 91/3/1 ? (correct from Educalc catalog)
48S shorty 91/4/2 250
95LX jaguar 91/4/23? 695 Pocket PC w/Lotus 1-2-3
%: I assume the timer came out with the IL module, because that's
the way I remember them being announced -- this may be wrong. Also,
the name really is phineas, although I assume it's named after
Phileas Fogg -- strange, huh?
Further notes from Wlodek:
I have compared this with notes from Craig Finseth, my own notes, and
photographs of some frames by Jim Donnelly (the photos are difficult
to read in places, so they are not guaranteed to give the right
answer). I have included some of my recollections too. From all
these, I have made a few corrections and additions to the above. The
HP48SX 32k and 128k RAM cards have now been added to the CHARLEMAGNE
board, as has the Flamberge ROM card. The HP95LX has not been added to
the Hall of Fame (the HP-94 handheld computer was not included
either).