|Re: 17BII+ vs 19BII Business Consulatant II|
Message #4 Posted by Neil Hamilton (Ottawa) on 6 Jan 2012, 8:51 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by bill platt
I think you have to differentiate between the 2 "new" 17Bii+ machines; the latest (silver) does have L() and G() [they are documented in the manual as well]. I have no idea about the clunky bronze one. All reports I have seen say "no".
Running in my silver 17Bii+, several solver routines actually executed faster than my original 17Bii's. I have no doubt that it does have a different solver and if I put more complex problems in, some of the issues mentioned here in the last half year may very well crop up. However, I think that majority of these complaints have come from the early bronze 17Bii+, not the silver one.
About the biggest difference I note between the 17Bii and the (silver) 17Bii+ is the calculation of amortization schedules. The 17Bii+ seems to repeat the calculation from scratch when you are doing the later runs (say 49-60, for example). The 17Bii just continues where it left off so it is much faster there.
I picked up my 17Bii+ for $0.01 on TAS (plus $17 shipping, of course) and I am most happy with it (it definitely slipped in under the radar!)! The buttons are WAY better than the new-in-blister-pack very late model 17Bii (black face) I picked up at HHC2011. Those ones have the hollow feel of the current crop of HP's (ugh!) -- which includes the 12C+ I have BTW (and I suspect the 15C LE). My older 17Bii's all have gorgeous keyboards.
However the largest differentiating factor has got to be the screen of the 17Bii+ vs. the older ones. Just no comparison -- the 17Bii+ wins hands down! Contrast and viewing angle are far superior.
Battery consumptions? That remains to be seen but I doubt the new ones are in the same league as the 3x 357.
I can't answer the question about 19Bii vs. 17Bii+ because my 19Bii is still in transit (purchased yesterday). The 17Bii(+)'s do not have the rich set of math functions in the 19Bii so it is clearly not as useful as an all-around calculator.