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Crimson Research Voyageur Simulators for iPhone
Message #1 Posted by Les Wright on 5 Dec 2008, 4:06 a.m.

Forgive me for being out of touch, but I just discovered the recently released and free 11C, 15C, 12C, and 16C simulators. The interface looks almost exactly like Tom Fors' releases, and indeed seem to have all the functionality but no cost.

Does anyone know about Crimson Research? Are these the Nonpareil releases directly from Eric Smith that have been long anticipated?

Les

      
Re: Crimson Research Voyageur Simulators for iPhone
Message #2 Posted by Dusan Zivkovic on 5 Dec 2008, 6:15 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Les Wright

Ho ho ho, Christmas come early.
I've been 'saving' to get myself an 11.99 15C for Christmas...
Thank you Crimson, whoever you are.

            
Re: Crimson Research Voyageur Simulators for iPhone
Message #3 Posted by Les Wright on 6 Dec 2008, 3:14 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by Dusan Zivkovic

The Tom Fors paid version, SCI-15C, has some nice features that may for some make it worth the extra money--I like the larger key option and the duplication of the crib sheet from the underside of the actual calculator.

But, apart from that, it seems that the Crimson Research version is essentially identical. I ran a couple of integrals and routines in each and I don't detect any speed advantage of one over the other.

Les

                  
Re: Crimson Research Voyageur Simulators for iPhone
Message #4 Posted by Trevor Stevens on 12 Dec 2008, 8:27 p.m.,
in response to message #3 by Les Wright

The CR version(s) seem to be gone from the app store now. Christmas came and left early it seems.

                        
Re: Crimson Research Voyageur Simulators for iPhone
Message #5 Posted by Steve Simpkin on 14 Dec 2008, 3:23 p.m.,
in response to message #4 by Trevor Stevens

There is some discussion that there may be potential copyright issues with some of the later HP calculator microcode. Perhaps this is why the free nonpareil iPhone/iPod Touch versions of HP-11C, HP-12C, HP-15C and HP-16C were pulled from the Apple App Store?

From: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8623385

"I've been doing a lot of reading in the various websites where work on HP calculator simulation is done, and there appear to be licensing or copyright issues with some later microcode, e.g. I see where the nonpareil distribution was being discussed as split between free and not over this. So it may well be that some kind of copyright issue arose."

                              
Re: Crimson Research Voyageur Simulators for iPhone
Message #6 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 14 Dec 2008, 4:47 p.m.,
in response to message #5 by Steve Simpkin

That matches the fact that recent Nonpareil distributions lack the voyager emulations (from what I've read here.) If the new 12C hardware (Arm based) uses Nonpareil as its base platform, I can understand that HP is keeping its hands on the 12C code.

      
Re: Crimson Research Voyageur Simulators for iPhone
Message #7 Posted by S. Martin on 5 Dec 2008, 11:09 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Les Wright

If you click on the logo (upper right corner) on the simulator you will be taken to the info screen which states the simulator is based on the Mac OS X port of nonpareil.

      
Re: Crimson Research Voyageur Simulators for iPhone
Message #8 Posted by PatrickS on 14 Dec 2008, 7:25 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Les Wright

All of the Crimson Research Voyageur Simulators have disappeared from the App Store!

Anyone know what happened??


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