|Re: Some ideas (Re: Plea for HP-41 User Contributed Programs)|
Message #3 Posted by Bill (Smithville, NJ) on 28 Feb 2008, 11:57 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by Valentin Albillo
Thanks for your reply.
Assuming you're talking about the late HP User's Library programs in their original HPUL forms, I might be able to contribute a number of them.
You assume correct.
Since the originals are far too precious to send them over the mail (accidents do happen and things do get lost)
I suggest you tell us some pretty specific format for the scans for uniformity purposes (file type, bit depth [aka number of colours], width, height) and I'll scan and send them to you with my blessings.
I’m using the format that Dave requires for his scans. In this case, I’m scanning 300 DPI B&W to TIFF, using a image program to erase personal data from the tiff, and then creating a PDF of the result. The ones I have are standard letter size (8.5” x 11”), so am scanning to that size. I also take the time to use the imaging program to remove artifacts from the scans, such as staple marks, 3-hole punch marks, crease marks, and other such artifacts. Takes time, but cleans up the resulting scans.
As scanned images of resolution high enough to be easily readable tend to be pretty large, they're probably difficult to send as e-mail attachments, as we're talking a sizable number of megabytes for the whole program documentation so I also suggest you previously arrange some storage space of yours (or Mr. Hicks' perhaps) where interested people could submit their scans, via ftp most likely.
I think Dave has an upload directory already setup to receive scans and pdf files. Uploading directly to Dave will eliminate any problems that anyone may have that I am attempting to accumulate these programs for my own personal uses.
Also, I would also suggest you to extend your plea to HP-67 programs, as there were many times more of them in the HPUL than HP-41C's, and virtually all of them can be loaded and run on an HP-41C most easily if you happen to also own the 41C Card Reader. So this is also an invaluable source of software for HP-41C users.
Good Ideal – Consider the plea extended.
Finally, this will mean quite an effort on the part of people who will search their cellars and garages for old HPUL programs and then proceed to painfully scan them and ftp them up to you, so it would be expected that all that effort doesn't go to waste in case you decide to change your mind after a while or something. In other words, a definite commitment on your part is expected, rain or snow, to carry on with the project come what may. This I assume to be the case or you wouldn't be publicly offering your time and money (postage), but you could make it explicit by getting out of your present anonymity. I for one wouldn't be comfortable spending my very, very scarce free time and doing a considerable effort to send valuable materials to an anonymous individual. Think about it.
Then don’t send the scans to me!! Send them to Dave. All I want to see is that these programs become available for others to enjoy.
I prefer to not use my full name on any Web Site. I do attempt to use a consistent signature (Bill (Smithville, NJ)). That way all my posts through out the internet forums have the same signature.
There are quite a few people on this site who I have corresponded with, spoken by phone with and have personally met. Many individuals here do have my real name. You also can have my real name and I will email it to you with my address, work address and phone numbers off the list. I would appreciate you NOT using it on the list, but there is nothing I can do to stop you from doing whatever you please.
As I mentioned earlier, several years ago, along with Dave Ramsey, I scanned in some of the TI user program library and other TI documents for Gene Wright’s web site. These were 4-5 inches of documents, many in stressed condition. I think Gene will agree that the results were worth it. Many months were spent doing it.
This is a hobby to me and takes second place to my personal home life, my grandchildren, my work and many other items in my life. As such, I make no promises that I will do these scans in any expedited sense of the word. But they will get done!
Everything above assuming the copyright to these old HPUL programs in their original HPUL forms is cleared, i.e., current HP incarnation doesn't mind. Else, all bets are off.
Well, I guess “all bets are off” – I really doubt if “current HP incarnation” would even know what these are and as such would revert back to “no way” in giving approval.
So where do we go from here?
Bill (Smithville, NJ)
(Real First Name, City and State)
Edited: 28 Feb 2008, 7:29 p.m.