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HP 35s Cheat Sheet / Reference Card?
Message #1 Posted by Daniel Vollmer on 1 Aug 2007, 5:01 a.m.

Being a new user of the 35s, I was wondering whether there already is some form of reference card that would fit inside the calculator case, a bit like the useful "HP 48 Pocket Book" by James Donnelly. Some things are quite different from what I'm used to from my 48GX, and are not entirely "discoverable" without the manual (e.g. flag meanings, EQN R(down arrow) for stack variables, or the format of variables for ISG or DSE, format of programs for SOLVE or INTEGRATE, ...)

All in all, I'm quite fond of the calculator itself, and the manual was a good read (though it felt a bit inconsistent at times, as if they were written at different times and with different expectations of the default mode / flags the calculator shipped with, especially in the way that it mostly treated RPN but sometimes had examples in ALG). Seeing the "First Edition — February 2007" also made me wonder a bit.

The only scary moment was when I missed the included batteries in the (awful) blister packaging. I just couldn't believe they wouldn't include the batteries... ^_^

      
Re: HP 35s Cheat Sheet / Reference Card?
Message #2 Posted by Vincze on 1 Aug 2007, 9:54 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Daniel Vollmer

Quote:
..."HP 48 Pocket Book" by James Donnelly...
I am interested in this book. I look online for, but I do not see. Is this something that is freely download, or something users must buy.

I too think something simple should be made for 35s. Book ok, but big to carry around with calculator. I rather have three fold sheet that offer most important items.

            
Re: HP 35s Cheat Sheet / Reference Card?
Message #3 Posted by Daniel Vollmer on 1 Aug 2007, 10:21 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by Vincze

Quote:
I am interested in this book. I look online for, but I do not see. Is this something that is freely download, or something users must buy.

It was available for sale when I bought my 48GX in 1996. If I recall correctly I mail-ordered it from Educalc back in the day. Amazon Link, but it'll be hard to get, I should think.

Quote:
I too think something simple should be made for 35s. Book ok, but big to carry around with calculator. I rather have three fold sheet that offer most important items.

Yes, a reference card should do fine, a whole book would be overkill! :)

As an aside, I'm still not sure which is the most efficient way to loop on the HP 35s; judging from the HP 33s Datafile review, it's not DSE / ISG, but should I use RCL+, STO-, or ...

            
Re: HP 35s Cheat Sheet / Reference Card?
Message #4 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 1 Aug 2007, 10:38 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by Vincze

Hi Vincze.
You can find the book on CalcPro
You have to press the "Search" button on the left, then use a convenient search string, such as:
"48 pocket book"
and you get the book listed for 6.95 USD (shipping & handling fees to be added).
Hope this helps.
Best regards.
Giancarlo

                  
Re: HP 35s Cheat Sheet / Reference Card?
Message #5 Posted by Vincze on 1 Aug 2007, 10:52 a.m.,
in response to message #4 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Ciao Giancarlo! Thank you so much for the information. I will check it out. Any idea how many pages this little book is?

Also, what part of Italy are you from? I met my wife in Sicily while I was on holiday. I think it funny that a Hungarian man marry a Sicilian, but she is beautiful woman.

                        
Re: HP 35s Cheat Sheet / Reference Card?
Message #6 Posted by Daniel Vollmer on 1 Aug 2007, 10:56 a.m.,
in response to message #5 by Vincze

Quote:
Any idea how many pages this little book is?

58 pages, and it fits snugly into the soft-case of the 48GX.

                              
Re: HP 35s Cheat Sheet / Reference Card?
Message #7 Posted by Vincze on 1 Aug 2007, 11:22 a.m.,
in response to message #6 by Daniel Vollmer

Good morning Daniel. 58 pages not exactly little book. I was thinking maybe three pages. Thank you for information though.

                        
Re: HP 35s Cheat Sheet / Reference Card?
Message #8 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 1 Aug 2007, 11:02 a.m.,
in response to message #5 by Vincze

Vincze,
"unfortunately" I live in the middle of the Adriatic coast, quite far from Sicily :-(
But I hope I'll have a chance to go there on holiday in the very next future :-))
Viszlát (I hope it's correct ;-)
Giancarlo

                              
Re: HP 35s Cheat Sheet / Reference Card?
Message #9 Posted by Vincze on 1 Aug 2007, 11:19 a.m.,
in response to message #8 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Ha ha ... close enough. Actually, it viszlát, but I know what you intended.

Why you say unfortunately you live in middle of Adriatic Coast? Adriatic sea is very beautiful. I was at Ancona once with friends on holiday while in college and it very beautiful.

Edited: 1 Aug 2007, 11:25 a.m.

                                    
Adriatic Coast
Message #10 Posted by Nenad (Croatia) on 2 Aug 2007, 3:27 a.m.,
in response to message #9 by Vincze

Hi Vincze,

Quote:

Why you say unfortunately you live in middle of Adriatic Coast?


Maybe, because there are also places, such as Split, where I live, which may be described as "middle of Adriatic Coast", but located on the other (eastern side) of Adriatic.

The Adriatic is a better place along the Croatian side of Adriatic, than the Italian one, owing to a lower rate of industrialization. You Hungarians certainly know this fact very well, as many of your fellow (former) citizens come here to spend vacancies.

Croats from the inland say to us: "Fortunately, you live on the Adriatic Coast".

Nevertheless, it is obvious (at least Giancarlo and I may prove) that HP vintage calculators grow perfectly well on both sides of the Adriatic;)

                                          
Re: Adriatic Coast
Message #11 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 2 Aug 2007, 4:21 a.m.,
in response to message #10 by Nenad (Croatia)

Hi Nenad.

Quote:
HP vintage calculators grow perfectly well on both sides of the Adriatic

What about a new HP "ACO" - Adriatic Coast Owners ? ;-))
Best regards.
Giancarlo
                                                
Re: Adriatic Coast
Message #12 Posted by Nenad (Croatia) on 2 Aug 2007, 5:54 a.m.,
in response to message #11 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Hi Giancarlo,

Quote:

What about a new HP "ACO" - Adriatic Coast Owners ? ;-))


Perfect idea! Organizing a meeting of the new club would not be difficult at all, one year in Split, another one in Ancona. Regardless of the number of its members it would certainly be an international club ;)

AFAIK, the SNAV's hydrofoil craft takes less than 4 hours coast-to-coast. Beginning of ferragosto it is full of Italians. After they get of the ship, in streets of Split you can hear only Italian. And that happens about ... just now!

                                          
Re: Adriatic Coast
Message #13 Posted by Vincze on 2 Aug 2007, 8:36 a.m.,
in response to message #10 by Nenad (Croatia)

Quote:
The Adriatic is a better place along the Croatian side of Adriatic, than the Italian one, owing to a lower rate of industrialization.
Both sides very nice and I not disagree with you that Croatian side not very nice. But the times I be in Italy, it was very nice.
      
Re: HP 35s Cheat Sheet / Reference Card?
Message #14 Posted by bill platt on 1 Aug 2007, 12:13 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Daniel Vollmer

The manuals inconsistencies may stem from the history of the manual: it is the 33s manual re-worked, where the 33s manual was a re-worked 32sii manual. Some of the original 32sii stuff that was taken out of the 33s manual has made its way back in, in modified form.


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