WP34s: inconsistent behavior for Zeta near zero

08012017, 07:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 08012017 07:23 PM by Dieter.)
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WP34s: inconsistent behavior for Zeta near zero
In the General Forum there is a discussion about the Riemann Zeta function and its implementation on various HP calculators. For this purpose the high accuracy 34s served me very well for reliable reference values. But now I realized that arguments very close to zero may be off. The following examples refer to 34s version 3.3 3840 with printer support.
Note: for x close to zero Zeta(x) is approximately –0,5–x. So Zeta(1E10) is ~ –0,5000000001 and Zeta(1E20) rounds to –0,5 in SP mode. So far so good. But then: Zeta(3 E30) yields –0,5 (correct) Zeta(3,3333 E30) returns –0,5 (correct) Zeta(3,33333 E30) returns –0,5000045000450005 (completely off) Zeta(–3,33333 E30) returns –0,5000495049504950 (completely off) Zeta(3,14159 E30) returns –0,4999984084542908 (completely off) Zeta(1E40) throws a –∞ error One reason for me posting this is ...I came across the same problem when I tried to calculate Zeta for arguments very close to zero by means of the reflection formula. Here Zeta(x) can be expressed in terms of Zeta(1–x) so that x<0 or even x<0,5 can be handled. Maybe this is also the reason for the mentioned strange results on the 34s. I suspect that 1–x here simply rounds to 1, and Zeta(1) is undefined, or ∞ if you prefer. Dieter 

08012017, 11:54 PM
(This post was last modified: 08022017 12:33 AM by Paul Dale.)
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RE: WP34s: inconsistent behavior for Zeta near zero
I think you are correct pointing at the reflection code as the cause here.
Pauli 

08032017, 12:39 AM
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RE: WP34s: inconsistent behavior for Zeta near zero
I've got a fix which I'll commit tonight.
Instead of reflecting at x=0.5, the change reflects for x<=0. The series converges for x>0 so values should still be good and the accuracy loss won't occur. 

08032017, 07:30 AM
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RE: WP34s: inconsistent behavior for Zeta near zero
The fix has been committed. We await the next rebuild for the firmware and emulators.
Pauli 

08032017, 09:45 PM
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RE: WP34s: inconsistent behavior for Zeta near zero
(08032017 07:30 AM)Paul Dale Wrote: The fix has been committed. We await the next rebuild for the firmware and emulators. Great, thank you. When the new version is available on sourceforge, github or whereever, could you please post a direct link to the directory with the .bin files resp. the new emulator files? I always get lost when I try to find these things. Dieter 

08042017, 01:02 AM
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RE: WP34s: inconsistent behavior for Zeta near zero
I expect it will be Marcus making the new images.
Pauli 

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