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Swiss Micros makes HP 'act-alikes' - programmable
03-20-2017, 02:51 PM
Post: #21
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(12-29-2016 05:45 PM)Briancady413 Wrote:  https://www.swissmicros.com/

I haven't purchased any, but thought others might like to hear of this company. If you are familiar with Swiss Micros, would you rate the company in the following poll: (1-5 for low-to-high quality)

Brian

The build quality is impressive. I never hesitate to recommend them to people looking for a classic HP calculator.

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03-21-2017, 11:18 AM
Post: #22
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I saw the 42P prototype at the Allschwil meeting last fall, I'm sure everyone on that room is going to buy one when they come out, I know I will Smile. I'm still amazed.
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03-21-2017, 11:21 AM
Post: #23
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(03-21-2017 11:18 AM)Alejandro Paz(Germany) Wrote:  I saw the 42P prototype at the Allschwil meeting last fall, I'm sure everyone on that room is going to buy one when they come out, I know I will Smile. I'm still amazed.

I wasn't in the room and I'll probably buy one too, even if just so I can compare with the original 42S! The reputations of SM and Free42 combined in one device is surely a recipe for success.
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03-21-2017, 05:06 PM
Post: #24
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I had to resolder the studs on my DM-15CC, and the keys are pretty stiff on it, but it's a rather nice device.

Looking forward to the DM42, and I've only seen pictures and videos of it. I'll probably get one. It'll also be interesting as a platform for various third-party calculator firmwares (ideally suited to WP-43S and newRPL, and I could even see it being useful for non-HP-like firmware), in addition to the Free42-based functionality as shipped.
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03-21-2017, 10:56 PM
Post: #25
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(03-21-2017 05:06 PM)bhtooefr Wrote:  [...] the DM42 [...]. It'll also be interesting as a platform for various third-party calculator firmwares (ideally suited to WP-43S and newRPL, and I could even see it being useful for non-HP-like firmware), in addition to the Free42-based functionality as shipped.

And that, my friend, is a major reason to buy more than one DM-42 !
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03-21-2017, 11:02 PM
Post: #26
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(03-21-2017 10:56 PM)vido Wrote:  
(03-21-2017 05:06 PM)bhtooefr Wrote:  [...] the DM42 [...]. It'll also be interesting as a platform for various third-party calculator firmwares (ideally suited to WP-43S and newRPL, and I could even see it being useful for non-HP-like firmware), in addition to the Free42-based functionality as shipped.

And that, my friend, is a major reason to buy more than one DM-42 !

I'd certainly love to have one on my desk and one in my computer bag, but that will depend heavily on the final price point.
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05-26-2017, 02:57 PM
Post: #27
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I now own three SwissMicros units. A DM12L, DM16L and DM41L. Well, four if you count the DM42 beta unit delivered to work (and I'm working from home today, worst luck...)

I can concur that the hardware is of excellent quality. These Voyager-like units are built like tanks and the rubber feet both make them stay in one place on the desk and reduce the noise of the keyboard action.

They are also incredibly flexible. Over time, the DM41L has become my "go to" machine but I preferred the action of the DM12L. So, what did I do? I swapped over the guts of the machines (the keyboard domes are fixed to the printed circuit board) and simply re-flashed them with the firmware to match the front plate and keys. (Very minor) problem solved!

Computation-wise these machines behave exactly as the original HP machines do, but considerably faster, because they use the original HP microcode running on an ARM-based system clocked at up to 48MHz. The exception to this is obviously the DM42, which uses Thomas Okken's Free42 and the Intel BCD library instead of the original HP-42S microcode.

It has also been mentioned that SwissMicros provide regular firmware updates to iron out problems and add new features. It's true. See here for the firmware history. I've recently been involved in the testing of an across-the-board update that brings some interesting stuff to the table, so development of these products is alive and well. Before you ask, I will say no more than this...

Given the attention to detail in the manufacture of these machines and the level of access to the guys who actually design them that you get, I do feel that the term "knock-off" was a little unfair.
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05-28-2017, 05:36 AM
Post: #28
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(12-30-2016 04:30 PM)Briancady413 Wrote:  
(12-29-2016 08:34 PM)Mark Hardman Wrote:  Perhaps it wasn't your intent, but I take slight umbrage at the use of the term "knockoffs."...

Mark Hardman

HI Mark,

My apologies to Swiss Micros and to all for casually calling 'knockoffs' what is clearly a reputable company's product. Congratulations to Swiss Micros for the high poll results they've earned from among us.

Brian

Brian, perhaps you could modify the thread title? You only need to edit your head post and update the Subject.
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05-28-2017, 08:09 AM
Post: #29
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I second that, it keeps grabbing my attention!
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05-28-2017, 09:59 AM
Post: #30
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How about changing "-offs" to "-outs"? :-)
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05-29-2017, 07:08 AM
Post: #31
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Thanks for updating the thread title, Brian!
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