Poll: which calculator format do you prefer?
Portrait
Landscape
Doesn't matter
Any of the two above
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Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
03-03-2016, 02:03 AM
Post: #21
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
(03-03-2016 01:57 AM)Dave Frederickson Wrote:  
(03-03-2016 01:52 AM)Geir Isene Wrote:  Agreed. But the 9810, 9815...?

Good point. Perhaps this poll should be limited to handheld calculators, but then someone will try to hold a 9810/15 in their hand and hurt themselves.

Yeah. So let's limit the poll to calculators that are meant as hand-held and excluding any computer/calculators. Clear enough demarkation?
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03-03-2016, 02:34 AM (This post was last modified: 03-03-2016 02:51 AM by Jlouis.)
Post: #22
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
(03-03-2016 02:03 AM)Geir Isene Wrote:  
(03-03-2016 01:57 AM)Dave Frederickson Wrote:  Good point. Perhaps this poll should be limited to handheld calculators, but then someone will try to hold a 9810/15 in their hand and hurt themselves.

Yeah. So let's limit the poll to calculators that are meant as hand-held and excluding any computer/calculators. Clear enough demarkation?

Ok, fair enough.

In fact, the poll is very, very simple.

Thanks for the healthy and intelligent debate!

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03-03-2016, 02:49 AM
Post: #23
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
Nothing like a poll to stir things up... Wink

I've used both portrait (most) and landscape (Voyagers and 71B) for so long it's hard to think of the same machine in another orientation. E.g. it's hard to think of using a 12C in a portrait layout, or a 15C.

As the only relevant data point so far, for those 41 users that are now using a DM41L - how is it? To be fair, it's hard to compare 30+ years of use with a month or two, but it would be interesting to hear feedback.

With the DM42L and possibly the WP-35S coming out in landscape, it would be nice to hear feedback from users that have "made the switch", which might positively influence these new landscape designs.

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03-03-2016, 03:29 AM
Post: #24
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
I have a visceral revulsion towards the landscape style.

I remember ordering my HP71 and was really eager to get it, but actually having it was a significant letdown. Till coming here, I wasn't really sure why I didn't like my 71, it has the 41 translator, extra memory, and the IL module, but I never had that 'damn this is slick' feeling from using it that I did with my HP41CV, and it's follow on HP41CX. (BTW, I'm sure I could have fixed my CV with what I know now about lose screws and intermittent zebra connectors, damn me for getting rid of it!)

I've amassed quite a collection of HP machines now, and except for the 71 and the 75 I bought back in the 80s, I have no landscape machines.

Now, how would I feel about the Swiss Micros units? Idunno. I suspect as a novelty, it would be like the 71, cool for a week, and then relegated to the display case, or maybe even the bottom desk drawer.

The Go41 app is portrait, and I am really enjoying having a CX (and a 67) hidden in my phone and with me at all times. And since I have a $24 cell phone, no anxiety if I drop it in water. (my head would explode if something happened to flagship)

Not sure why I hate the landscape format so much, I just do.

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03-03-2016, 05:55 AM
Post: #25
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
(x) Depends
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03-03-2016, 06:38 AM
Post: #26
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
Diagonal: best of both worlds!

Really, portrait unless it's landscape.

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03-03-2016, 06:50 AM
Post: #27
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
(03-03-2016 06:38 AM)Geoff Quickfall Wrote:  Diagonal: best of both worlds!

Geoff, you need one of these. I wish there were an RPN version of it.


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03-03-2016, 07:35 AM (This post was last modified: 03-03-2016 07:36 AM by Geoff Quickfall.)
Post: #28
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
Hi Paul!

I took wrongulator calculus in university!

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03-03-2016, 07:36 AM
Post: #29
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
Mostly portrait on my calcs, but sometimes (in case of long expressions) I use landscape on my Classpad 400.
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03-03-2016, 03:48 PM
Post: #30
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
It is interesting to see all the savvy smartphone users texting rapidly with two thumbs, holding the "portrait-style" phone as it if is a landscape device a la Voyager machines. On the other hand, I have never seen anyone holding that portrait phone with two hands when making an actual phone call. Sitting on the desk, I guess it doesn't matter which orientation the calculator is, but if held in one hand while pressing keys with the other, I would say that portrait is more convenient. (IMHO)

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03-03-2016, 05:02 PM
Post: #31
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
(03-03-2016 03:48 PM)Jake Schwartz Wrote:  It is interesting to see all the savvy smartphone users texting rapidly with two thumbs, holding the "portrait-style" phone as it if is a landscape device a la Voyager machines. On the other hand, I have never seen anyone holding that portrait phone with two hands when making an actual phone call. Sitting on the desk, I guess it doesn't matter which orientation the calculator is, but if held in one hand while pressing keys with the other, I would say that portrait is more convenient. (IMHO)

Jake

Jake, I will post exactly what you wrote about everybody using ours smartphone in landscape, with both thumbs.

As for usage in the field, I have used the 15c many years out of office, with no problems, but the portrait in this case looks good too, so IMHO, it's a match.

But on the desk...nothing beats a landscape...

As many kids show us today, and even older peoples, typing with both thumbs is faster than anyway you want...

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03-03-2016, 06:54 PM
Post: #32
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(03-03-2016 01:08 AM)Dave Frederickson Wrote:  
(03-03-2016 12:55 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  That's not even a pure calculator... Wink

Way to alienate the 71B enthusiasts! BTW, I like my Voyagers landscape and everything else portrait, except for the 71 which would still suck in portrait.

It's better than a calculator; it's a computer!

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03-03-2016, 07:08 PM
Post: #33
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
This poll has insufficient options. Clearly the ideal form factor is a triangle.

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03-03-2016, 07:37 PM
Post: #34
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
(03-03-2016 07:08 PM)Accutron Wrote:  This poll has insufficient options. Clearly the ideal form factor is a triangle.

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03-03-2016, 08:08 PM (This post was last modified: 03-15-2016 11:12 PM by Dave Frederickson.)
Post: #35
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
(03-03-2016 07:37 PM)Jlouis Wrote:  That's the winner!!!

Obviously, but should the hypotenuse be horizontal or vertical? Looks like it still boils down to landscape vs portrait. What about square, or the politically correct term, uni-orientational? Smile

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03-03-2016, 08:20 PM (This post was last modified: 03-03-2016 08:20 PM by Geoff Quickfall.)
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RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
It took 35 posts before the acronym 'Politically Correct' was mentioned!

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03-03-2016, 11:00 PM
Post: #37
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
(03-03-2016 02:49 AM)rprosperi Wrote:  ... it's hard to think of using a 12C in a portrait layout, or a 15C.
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For a taste of that, try the smartphone app from RLM Tools called 12P-Lite. It supports the standard landscape layout as well as a portrait orientation.
       
Its real best features are that you can select 12C or 12C Platinum mode, in landscape mode it can show the stack, and program editing is much more readable.
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03-03-2016, 11:59 PM
Post: #38
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
(03-03-2016 07:08 PM)Accutron Wrote:  This poll has insufficient options. Clearly the ideal form factor is a triangle.

But a square, I suppose, will satisfy all people here.

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03-04-2016, 12:07 AM
Post: #39
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
(03-03-2016 11:00 PM)striegel Wrote:  For a taste of that, try the smartphone app from RLM Tools called 12P-Lite. It supports the standard landscape layout as well as a portrait orientation.

Its real best features are that you can select 12C or 12C Platinum mode, in landscape mode it can show the stack, and program editing is much more readable.

Interesting and looks very nice, thanks for sharing this. Though you wrote "smartphone app" unfortunately it appears they only support iPhones, though Mac and PC versions also exist.

Too bad, as the screen images look excellent; the stack display is a nice bonus too.

You noted that program editing is more readable - how so? For the Portrait version, are the key codes in the program code display adjusted to the new key locations? I can see how they might no be, but if not, it would be nearly impossible to use for programming... though I suppose you could switch to Landscape mode for entering/editing programs, but run them in Portrait mode.

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03-04-2016, 12:08 AM
Post: #40
RE: Poll: Landscape or Portrait?
(03-03-2016 11:59 PM)emece67 Wrote:  But a square, I suppose, will satisfy all people here.

More likely to dissatisfy all people here... but at least its not biased.

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