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Chinese Characters
05-10-2015, 07:53 PM
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Chinese Characters
I hope you can help. I want to find the Chinese character for Water. What character page do I go to in the Chars menu to find it? Thanks,

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05-10-2015, 09:12 PM (This post was last modified: 05-10-2015 09:27 PM by Mark Hardman.)
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RE: Chinese Characters
(05-10-2015 07:53 PM)Eddie W. Shore Wrote:  I hope you can help. I want to find the Chinese character for Water. What character page do I go to in the Chars menu to find it? Thanks,

Eddie

Google Translate gives me "水" in Chinese (Simplified).

Using the Unicode Character Search for that character I'm told:

"Are you looking for Unicode character U+6C34: water, liquid, lotion, juice?"

My trusty HP-16C tells me that 6C34 h is 27700 d.

And there it is under "CJK Uni. Ideographs":

   

Getting to it requires scrolling down several hundred pages.

Luckily there is the CHAR command:

Code:
EXPORT water()
BEGIN
PRINT("Water is: "+CHAR(27700));
END;

   

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05-10-2015, 10:19 PM
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RE: Chinese Characters
Until you posted in eried's old thread, I didn't realize that the Prime had a Pinyin entry method. Pinyin for 水 is shui. Entering that while in the Characters app take us to:

   

I assume the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 options are for different sets of ideographs. It looks like 3 is Chinese (Simplified):

   

Very cool! Thanks eried and Eddie.

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01-31-2023, 09:36 AM (This post was last modified: 01-31-2023 09:38 AM by jte.)
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RE: Chinese Characters
With the Prime's pinyin input method, one picks a syllable and a tone. For “水”, the syllable is “shui” and the tone is #3 (a.k.a. “the third tone”). Another way to show tones is with a tone marker; with a tone marker, “shui3” is written as “shuǐ”. (“Tone” has to do with how one varies one’s pitch as one speaks [in Standard Chinese for pinyin].)

Here are four examples in Simplified Chinese, with the syllable “ma”:
  • 妈 (mother), “ma1” / “mā”;
  • 麻 (hemp), “ma2” / “má”;
  • 马 (horse), “ma3” / “mǎ”; and
  • 骂 (scold), “ma4” / “mà”.
The fifth tone [not used in any of the four examples above] is also known as the neutral tone.

If one attempts to follow along with this thread by using the current public version of the firmware or virtual calculator, please note that some bugs have been addressed since the last release: I filed four tickets on the bug tracker for pinyin input, all four have since been closed. (Crashing after typing with a computer keyboard into the virtual calculator, incorrect tone numbers shown in the menu buttons, automatic scrolling not bringing the selection into view as a pinyin syllable is built up, and a request to remove tone numbers from the shown pinyin table [as is the case in the screenshot shown in this thread].)
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02-02-2023, 07:52 AM
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(01-31-2023 09:36 AM)jte Wrote:  I filed four tickets on the bug tracker for pinyin input, all four have since been closed. (Crashing after typing with a computer keyboard into the virtual calculator, incorrect tone numbers shown in the menu buttons, automatic scrolling not bringing the selection into view as a pinyin syllable is built up, and a request to remove tone numbers from the shown pinyin table [as is the case in the screenshot shown in this thread].)

Someone digging deep into the codebase I see... Smile

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02-03-2023, 04:48 AM
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RE: Chinese Characters
(02-02-2023 07:52 AM)Tim Wessman Wrote:  Someone digging deep into the codebase I see... Smile


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