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41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
06-26-2014, 03:45 PM (This post was last modified: 06-26-2014 03:46 PM by Ángel Martin.)
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RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
This is the one I have:

-XROM----ADDR--FUNCTION --------------
027.00 A669 EXT_IL_ROM MCode XROM 27.00 "EXT IL ROM"
027.01 A991 CLRBUF MCode XROM 27.01 "CLRBUF"
027.02 A5F8 DIRLEFT MCode XROM 27.02 "DIRLEFT"
027.03 A5ED DIRSIZE MCode XROM 27.03 "DIRSIZE"
027.04 A430 NAMEMED MCode XROM 27.04 "NAMEMED"
027.05 A92B READBUF MCode XROM 27.05 "READBUF"
027.06 A876 READCAL MCode XROM 27.06 "READCAL"
027.07 A674 READXM MCode XROM 27.07 "READXM"
027.08 A613 RECLEFT MCode XROM 27.08 "RECLEFT"
027.09 A9AA SCOPYFL MCode XROM 27.09 "SCOPYFL"
027.10 A73F SCREATE MCode XROM 27.10 "SCREATE"
027.11 A4FA SDIR MCode XROM 27.11 "SDIR"
027.12 A396 SNEWM MCode XROM 27.12 "SNEWM"
027.13 A1DB SWRTA MCode XROM 27.13 "SWRTA"
027.14 A1F2 SWRTK MCode XROM 27.14 "SWRTK"
027.15 A245 SWRTP MCode XROM 27.15 "SWRTP"
027.16 A228 SWRTPV MCode XROM 27.16 "SWRTPV"
027.17 A2AF SWRTS MCode XROM 27.17 "SWRTS"
027.18 A8E0 WRTBUFX MCode XROM 27.18 "WRTBUFX"
027.19 A82E WRTCAL MCode XROM 27.19 "WRTCAL"
027.20 A68E WRTXM MCode XROM 27.20 "WRTXM"
027.21 AA4F PRINT_FCNS MCode XROM 27.21 "PRINT FCNS"
027.22 AC4C ATOBUFX MCode XROM 27.22 "ATOBUFX"
027.23 AA58 MCLIST MCode XROM 27.23 "MCLIST"
027.24 AA76 MCPRP MCode XROM 27.24 "MCPRP"
027.25 A8C7 PRTAID MCode XROM 27.25 "PRTAID"
027.26 AE21 SACA MCode XROM 27.26 "SACA"
027.27 A8BF X>AR MCode XROM 27.27 "X>AR"


with cheksum: 29F
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06-26-2014, 08:25 PM
Post: #22
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-26-2014 03:45 PM)Ángel Martin Wrote:  This is the one I have:

-XROM----ADDR--FUNCTION --------------
027.00 A669 EXT_IL_ROM MCode XROM 27.00 "EXT IL ROM"
...
027.20 A68E WRTXM MCode XROM 27.20 "WRTXM"
027.21 AA4F PRINT_FCNS MCode XROM 27.21 "PRINT FCNS"
027.22 AC4C ATOBUFX MCode XROM 27.22 "ATOBUFX"
027.23 AA58 MCLIST MCode XROM 27.23 "MCLIST"
027.24 AA76 MCPRP MCode XROM 27.24 "MCPRP"
027.25 A8C7 PRTAID MCode XROM 27.25 "PRTAID"
027.26 AE21 SACA MCode XROM 27.26 "SACA"
027.27 A8BF X>AR MCode XROM 27.27 "X>AR"


with cheksum: 29F

My (supposed to be) preliminary version has a few differences in the catalog, the ROM header is different, there is no "PRINT FCNS" header and the order of the printer functions is different:

-EXT IL1A
CLRBUF
DIRLEFT
DIRSIZE
NAMEMED
READBUF
READCAL
READXM
RECLEFT
SCOPYFL
SCREATE
SDIR
SNEWM
SWRTA
SWRTK
SWRTP
SWRTPV
SWRTS
WRTBUFX
WRTCAL
WRTXM
PRTAID
X>AR
ATOBUFX
MCLIST
MCPRP
SACA


Checksum=123 (hex)

However, apart from the historical interest, I don't think it is needed to include the two versions in a module library.

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06-27-2014, 05:05 AM
Post: #23
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-26-2014 08:25 PM)J-F Garnier Wrote:  However, apart from the historical interest, I don't think it is needed to include the two versions in a module library.

J-F

I agree with that J-F, specially if one seems to be a superset of the other. I think the image I have I got from TOS, so it's available to anyone for download as well.

Now if those other ones still shared would surface... but not good prospects I'm afraid.

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06-27-2014, 02:13 PM (This post was last modified: 06-27-2014 02:21 PM by Ángel Martin.)
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RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-27-2014 09:43 AM)Mike (Stgt) Wrote:  An other point, related to Squid too, and also IIRC: he once suggested a fix of a "Devil's" bug which even could fit in some blank space of this ROM.
Ciao.....Mike

the article title was 'Debugging the Devil", and yes I patched my copy of the module appropriately ;-) It's true this module is half empty, which is handy to add more stuff to it not only the Skwid patch. Mine has a ton of stuff from the EXT-IO so I onlu need one module most of the time.

The patch was a replacement for the OS [BCDBIN] routine, which caused issues in functions RREG, WREG and OUTBINY.

PPC Reference: tbd
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06-27-2014, 06:00 PM (This post was last modified: 07-01-2014 09:24 PM by Jake Schwartz.)
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RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-27-2014 02:13 PM)Ángel Martin Wrote:  PPC Reference: tbd

That would be Volume 11, Number 5, Page 6 (June, 1984).


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06-28-2014, 02:50 PM (This post was last modified: 06-28-2014 02:51 PM by Ángel Martin.)
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RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(06-27-2014 06:00 PM)Jake Schwartz Wrote:  That would be Volume 11, Number 5, Page 6 (June, 1984).

Bravo!
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07-08-2016, 04:55 AM (This post was last modified: 07-08-2016 07:27 AM by Ángel Martin.)
Post: #27
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
It's that time of the year again... and to celebrate it what a better toy than a new ROM image?
And loyal to my proposal - here it is for everybody's enjoyment...

Here you have it, the HANDY COMPACT ROM in all its glory.
BTW the manual was already available at TOS

Now if only other folks would follow suite... but altruism isn't the sign of the times, I get it.

Best,
'AM


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07-08-2016, 07:55 AM
Post: #28
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(07-08-2016 04:55 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote:  Here you have it, the HANDY COMPACT ROM in all its glory.
...

Many thanks, Ángel, I've been looking for that ROM for a long time!

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07-08-2016, 06:00 PM
Post: #29
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
and in case not everyone saw the thread on it, there is a

[drum roll]


MERVA ROM


out there in calculator world.

Here's CAT 2:

VP
START
REPEAT
HV
HH
V
VIEWER
SITE
COMPARE
RUNSET
RUN
DATA
DATA2
TBS
TBM
TBL
TBX
S
M
L
?
PR
EE
88
TIMER
STOPP
STAT
SET
HELP
A1
MERVA ROM

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07-09-2016, 06:42 PM
Post: #30
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(07-08-2016 06:00 PM)TASP Wrote:  and in case not everyone saw the thread on it, there is a

[drum roll]

MERVA ROM

out there in calculator world.

Great but, where is the ROM image?
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07-09-2016, 06:58 PM
Post: #31
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
I saw it for sale somewhere. Didn't buy it.

I keep hoping whoever did get it turns up here, hence the reminder about it's existence.

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07-11-2016, 04:57 PM
Post: #32
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
So, Angel - I'm back from holiday and sawyour post.... Yes, we discussed before, we know:

So let's make "Butter bei die Fische", as we german speaking people say: What is missing in your collection. I will gently have a look at my collection and will write down the pürice I had to pay for these modules. If I'm correct we had in the past once a person, woh spread it's source / software for a fixed ammount the community has to gather. I'm open to share my modules, but I would like to get back a part of my investment.

Matthias
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07-11-2016, 04:58 PM
Post: #33
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(07-09-2016 06:42 PM)Ángel Martin Wrote:  
(07-08-2016 06:00 PM)TASP Wrote:  and in case not everyone saw the thread on it, there is a

[drum roll]

MERVA ROM

out there in calculator world.

Great but, where is the ROM image?

Module and image are in my collection.
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07-11-2016, 09:22 PM
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RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
Yea !!

Go team !!

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07-12-2016, 05:05 AM (This post was last modified: 07-12-2016 05:09 AM by Ángel Martin.)
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RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(07-11-2016 09:22 PM)TASP Wrote:  Yea !!
Go team !!

Don't hold your breath... it won't happen.
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07-12-2016, 05:08 AM
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RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(07-11-2016 04:57 PM)HP-Collection Wrote:  I'm open to share my modules, but I would like to get back a part of my investment.

Obviously the meaning of the word "sharing" is lost in the translation. Last time I looked it up in the dictionary it didn't say anything about paying - in any shape or form.
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07-12-2016, 03:04 PM
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(07-11-2016 04:57 PM)HP-Collection Wrote:  I'm open to share my modules, but I would like to get back a part of my investment.

How much for a copy of the 71B 0AAAA ROM?
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07-12-2016, 03:24 PM
Post: #38
RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(07-12-2016 05:08 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote:  
(07-11-2016 04:57 PM)HP-Collection Wrote:  I'm open to share my modules, but I would like to get back a part of my investment.

Obviously the meaning of the word "sharing" is lost in the translation. Last time I looked it up in the dictionary it didn't say anything about paying - in any shape or form.

We have a agreement! You have the same dictionary as I. The word "collecting" also does not implement paying money for the items and I do have to. I would really share all images for free if I would also get the hardware modules for free. Why should I pay a lot of money (mainly because I get outbid by other users) and the should share it for free?

Angel, I *really* would like to make steps towards you as I'm shure you, the community and me would get benefits on future software from your hands, but I do not see a approach on your side. What is YOUR offer?
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07-12-2016, 06:11 PM
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RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
(07-12-2016 03:24 PM)HP-Collection Wrote:  Why should I pay a lot of money (mainly because I get outbid by other users) and the should share it for free?

Hi Matthias,

One pays for a piece of hardware, shares the firmware, and keeps the hardware. Some members here contribute their time, some contribute software/firmware in their collection, and some do both. See the 71B Compendium for an example of sharing software and firmware and contributing an enormous amount of time (Thanks Sylvain).

Why share things for free? Well, I can say that I've received a number of items from members for free and I like to think it's because I've shared things from my collection or contribute my time. Do you need a better reason?

Dave
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07-12-2016, 07:44 PM
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RE: 41 Module Library: Last chance for common sense
Sharing makes what we have more valuable, because sharing increases the support base, the interest, the exchange of ideas, the vision of the possibilities, etc..

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