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HP Prime Marketing Video Message #1 Posted by Tim Wessman on 18 Apr 2013, 9:01 p.m. Promotional video Turn your volume down if it is up... :-) Edited: 18 Apr 2013, 9:02 p.m.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #2 Posted by JimP on 18 Apr 2013, 9:12 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Sweet! What's the battery life going to be like?

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #3 Posted by Thomas Klemm on 18 Apr 2013, 9:34 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman It appears that the exponents aren't aligned correctly. I must admit that I'm not impressed. Cheers Thomas

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #4 Posted by Eric Smith on 19 Apr 2013, 2:31 a.m., in response to message #3 by Thomas Klemm The firmware probably isn't at a "final" release stage yet, so I'd cut them some slack. Though it is a bit surprising that they'd choose to demo an aspect of it with such an obvious flaw.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #5 Posted by Mike (Stgt) on 19 Apr 2013, 3:38 a.m., in response to message #3 by Thomas Klemm You saw the hint 'Simulated images' in the lower right corner? Ciao.....Mike

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #6 Posted by Tim Wessman on 19 Apr 2013, 9:07 a.m., in response to message #5 by Mike (Stgt) Yeah, the "simulated images" is the problem here. :-( TW

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #7 Posted by Namir on 19 Apr 2013, 9:56 a.m., in response to message #3 by Thomas Klemm Please keep in mind the machine is in development and the presentations are based on that (and some photoshoping). Seeing GT Springer's presentation and explanations to various attendees, I can tell you that the HP Prime should have been called HP King ... because it will be the meanest little beast on the market!! So save your money and be ready to buy at least one unit when it come out. It's an easy guess that HHC2013 in Fort Collins will focus on HP Prime, So save your money and make reservations to be there. I think HHC2013 is going to be very special (no thanks to any talk I will give ...hahahaha) Namir

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #8 Posted by Csaba Tizedes (Hungary) on 19 Apr 2013, 11:56 a.m., in response to message #3 by Thomas Klemm The simulated screens made by a designer not an engineer. Like on a Silva Compasses brochure I saw something similar: N 47 87' 17" (S)he never heard about minute-arcs and other funny things.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #9 Posted by Bruce Bergman on 18 Apr 2013, 10:49 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Drool, drool... Can't wait!

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #10 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 19 Apr 2013, 1:02 a.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Enter key right above binary operators! Wrong side, but still nice :-). Where? When? How much?

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #11 Posted by db (martinez, ca.) on 19 Apr 2013, 1:51 a.m., in response to message #10 by Thomas Radtke Thomas; Wrong side is a point of view. This, this, this, this, this and this are fine with it, but they inhabit the mirror universe where RPN is everywhere and postfix is cool. Tim; Yes- This hoax really has gotten out of hand, what with HP making a whole new calculator just to fool us into thinking..... Wait. Now i'm confused.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #12 Posted by Ethan Conner on 19 Apr 2013, 9:26 a.m., in response to message #11 by db (martinez, ca.) At least the left side ENTER key people can look forward to the WP43S. The right side ENTER people may have lost on the survey but won with HP.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #13 Posted by Tim Wessman on 19 Apr 2013, 9:02 a.m., in response to message #10 by Thomas Radtke Official information is "fall" and MSRP 149.95$US. Don't forget that .95 cents. Very important that 95/100ths. :-D TW

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #14 Posted by Michael Lopez on 19 Apr 2013, 8:10 p.m., in response to message #13 by Tim Wessman Tim, Is that the estimated launch date in the USA or globally? Downunder we normally end up having to wait a lot longer :-(. Thanks, Michael

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #15 Posted by Tim Wessman on 19 Apr 2013, 9:31 p.m., in response to message #14 by Michael Lopez That is "worldwide". However what exactly that means and so on I do not know. I can only communicate the publicly available information we are sharing at the NCTM conference and with media outlets. TW

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #16 Posted by Mike Morrow on 19 Apr 2013, 11:15 p.m., in response to message #13 by Tim Wessman Quote: Official information is "fall" and MSRP 149.95$US. Amazingly low MSRP, IMHO. But I still remember paying that much in 1972 ($835 in 2013!) for a four-function Bomar 901.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #17 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 20 Apr 2013, 2:54 a.m., in response to message #13 by Tim Wessman Quote: Official information is "fall" and MSRP 149.95$US. If I pay $150 in cash, may I have a 15˘ rebate and a pair of dimes change? :-)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #18 Posted by Eric Smith on 19 Apr 2013, 2:35 a.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Looks beautiful! Which SoC does it use?

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #19 Posted by Tim Wessman on 19 Apr 2013, 9:38 p.m., in response to message #18 by Eric Smith I have to be careful to only communicate information that has being publicly disclosed, so unfortunately I can't specify an exact processor or chip. I can say though that it is an ARM9 normally clocked at 400mhz. It definitely is not a chip that should be difficult to get information on. TW

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #20 Posted by Eric Smith on 20 Apr 2013, 2:10 a.m., in response to message #19 by Tim Wessman Fair enough. Good to hear that it's not exotic like the one in the 39gii. Sounds like it could be a Freescale i.MX 25 or Atmel AT91SAM9G15, 25, or 45. I think NXP might also have some candidates.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #21 Posted by bhtooefr on 20 Apr 2013, 7:41 a.m., in response to message #20 by Eric Smith Could be a Samsung S3C2440, too. 400 MHz, ARM9, cheap, and a close relative of what's in the 50g. Or, there's newer variations, too. And, there's actually a ton of SoCs meant for cheap Chinese netbooks running WinCE, but I'm thinking Samsung, they're the ones most likely to have good info available in that clockspeed range.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #22 Posted by Michael Lopez on 19 Apr 2013, 4:32 a.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Looks nice, wonder if it runs RPL programmes :-)? Cheers, Michael

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #23 Posted by Mic on 19 Apr 2013, 8:30 a.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman GREAT !! Announce on Calc-bank.com : http://www.calc-bank.com/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1903

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #24 Posted by Mike Morrow on 19 Apr 2013, 9:01 a.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman The ENTER key is exactly where it needs to be, for the first time in 30 years...above the /x-+ keys! The industrial design looks very sharp...very refined and dignified. It's great that it doesn't have one of those awkward model numbers that HP has used for the past 25 years...like "HP 50g+iis/b@3$" or some such thing. :-) I've got to get one. When will the market be open?

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #25 Posted by Xavier A. (Brazil) on 19 Apr 2013, 6:48 p.m., in response to message #24 by Mike Morrow I second that (everything). Edited: 19 Apr 2013, 6:53 p.m.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #26 Posted by Mark Storkamp on 19 Apr 2013, 10:05 a.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman I just hope they come up with a better name for it before it's finally released. Don't they plan on ever having a follow up to it? It reminds me of the HP Photosmart printer I once bought. Just try going to the HP website and searching for a driver for 'Photosmart'. It's impossible. Once they came out with a second photosmart printer they finally decided to give it a number too. But the first one was just 'Photosmart' with no other model number. It became a huge PITA.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #27 Posted by Jake Schwartz on 19 Apr 2013, 10:11 a.m., in response to message #26 by Mark Storkamp Perhaps the next one could be the HP "Composite" :-) Jake

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #28 Posted by Patrice on 19 Apr 2013, 10:24 a.m., in response to message #27 by Jake Schwartz If a 'Composite" is the product of many "Primes", I can't wait :)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #29 Posted by Mike Morrow on 19 Apr 2013, 2:42 p.m., in response to message #28 by Patrice The new HP product name Prime could have been based on the US Department of Agriculture beef rating system. If so, the next product Choice would likely be good, but be wary of Select when it comes out. :-)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #30 Posted by Patrice on 19 Apr 2013, 2:54 p.m., in response to message #29 by Mike Morrow Sure, and the next name can also be "Optimus" :)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #31 Posted by BobVA on 19 Apr 2013, 5:14 p.m., in response to message #27 by Jake Schwartz Quote: Perhaps the next one could be the HP "Composite" :-) or "double prime"? :-)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #32 Posted by Tim Wessman on 19 Apr 2013, 9:29 p.m., in response to message #31 by BobVA My favorite is a more basic version, maybe without a CAS, called "sub prime". :-) TW

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #33 Posted by Reth on 20 Apr 2013, 1:14 a.m., in response to message #32 by Tim Wessman also smaller, bw display, plenty of programming capabilities, no unique lithium battery and better keyboard layout, I guess. Sounds like the 43s :)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #34 Posted by Walter B on 20 Apr 2013, 2:05 a.m., in response to message #33 by Reth d:-)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #35 Posted by gene wright on 20 Apr 2013, 8:46 a.m., in response to message #34 by Walter B Won't be anything "sub" about the 43S.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #36 Posted by Eric Smith on 19 Apr 2013, 5:49 p.m., in response to message #27 by Jake Schwartz As I pointed out two weeks ago, one could wait for the HP Composite, or get multiple Primes and duct tape them together.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #37 Posted by Michael Kussmaul on 19 Apr 2013, 5:53 p.m., in response to message #27 by Jake Schwartz I'm sure the next one will be called "HP Prime Beef" It has to! ;-)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #38 Posted by bhtooefr on 19 Apr 2013, 10:12 a.m., in response to message #26 by Mark Storkamp I'm guessing there's a product number on the back of the printer? That'd at least be unambiguous to search with...

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #39 Posted by Les Koller on 20 Apr 2013, 6:55 p.m., in response to message #26 by Mark Storkamp How about we call the updates something like Sophie Germain Prime, Mersenne Prime, Lucas-Lehmer Prime, Riemann Prime, there are countless (but probable a prime number) of possibilities.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #40 Posted by Han on 19 Apr 2013, 1:48 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Sexy... I'm all in -- so when can I buy one? =) To Tim: can you share with us any details on whether users will have access to low-level programming capabilities? (e.g. something akin to MASD or JAZZ for the HP48/49/50 series?) I imagine it is an ARM-based device. Also, what sort of I/O does this thing sport?

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #41 Posted by Angel Martin on 19 Apr 2013, 3:33 p.m., in response to message #40 by Han Am I the only one already missing an SD card storage??

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #42 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 19 Apr 2013, 3:47 p.m., in response to message #41 by Angel Martin I remember vaguely Tim's winning entry for HP's Design-a-Calculator Contest (or something like that) many years ago was about an internet-connected calculator. Let's hope HP-Store won't replace the SD-Card :-) Edited: 19 Apr 2013, 3:51 p.m.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #43 Posted by Robert Prosperi on 19 Apr 2013, 5:46 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman TW - Congratulations on an awesome looking machine! Like all the rest here, I'm eager to get some hands-on time as this is the first handheld machine I've ever seen that really makes me want to do some real graphing. The demo screens showing the circle rotating while simultaneously plotting a curve is particularly effective. Can you share with the group the reasoning for ENTER on the right side? It's not bad or wrong, IMHO, but as it's a first I'm sure we're all curious why? Thanks for a peek at a very intereting future. --bob prosperi p.s. I bet you were just dieing to post the video....

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #44 Posted by Tim Wessman on 19 Apr 2013, 9:34 p.m., in response to message #43 by Robert Prosperi The reasoning for a lot of things was driven by the desire to be consistent with expectations. People are used to large enter buttons on things like computer keyboards, and even touch keyobards on phones, and those are always on the right. People are used to seeing icons tied with "apps" and so the icon driven application catalog. There is something to be said for consistency with expectations in some ways. That is actually the dynamic geometry application. Actually, I'd never seen the video before Thursday morning at the booth. I knew it was being worked on, but really didn't know what it would look like. I think it turned out quite good actually. TW

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #45 Posted by jerome ibanes on 19 Apr 2013, 5:59 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Doesn't look like worth upgrading. I think the next upgrade would be the WP-43s for me. Edited: 19 Apr 2013, 6:01 p.m.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #46 Posted by reth on 19 Apr 2013, 9:54 p.m., in response to message #45 by jerome ibanes Ditto!

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #47 Posted by Paul Dale on 19 Apr 2013, 10:14 p.m., in response to message #45 by jerome ibanes The 34S project is finished. Bug fixes only now. Unless someone else decides to start improving it. - Pauli

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #48 Posted by Reth on 20 Apr 2013, 1:00 a.m., in response to message #47 by Paul Dale it's the 43 he is talking about Edited: 20 Apr 2013, 1:08 a.m.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #49 Posted by aurelio on 20 Apr 2013, 4:42 a.m., in response to message #48 by Reth Quote: it's the 43 he is talking about Yes , I think so

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #50 Posted by jerome ibanes on 20 Apr 2013, 6:11 p.m., in response to message #48 by Reth Quote: it's the 43 he is talking about It is. I already have a 34 and I really like it; but I have the feeling that I'll like the 43 much better.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #51 Posted by Gilles Carpentier on 20 Apr 2013, 8:18 a.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman This "Prime" looks very fine ! The plotter seems very powerful. I verified that the ellipse in the video is the real plot of the equation f(x,y)=0 given before. But the interest and usability will be if it don't take hours to draw...

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #52 Posted by Patrice on 20 Apr 2013, 2:21 p.m., in response to message #51 by Gilles Carpentier Quote: Tim said 400MHz ! Acceleratii incredibus est :)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #53 Posted by Gilles Carpentier on 20 Apr 2013, 4:30 p.m., in response to message #52 by Patrice hoc computus mirabília est. Vivat HP premium ! Edited: 20 Apr 2013, 4:45 p.m.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #54 Posted by Walter B on 20 Apr 2013, 5:22 p.m., in response to message #53 by Gilles Carpentier Quote: hoc computus mirabília est. O TEMPORA, O CASVS! O CIVIS GALLIAE, SI DICES COMPVTVS, NECESSE EST QVOQVE DICERE HIC ATQVE MIRABILIS. SPERO VT ADIVVET. >C{:-/

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #55 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 20 Apr 2013, 5:35 p.m., in response to message #54 by Walter B _ _ O TEMPORA, O CASI! :-)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #56 Posted by Walter B on 20 Apr 2013, 6:04 p.m., in response to message #55 by Gerson W. Barbosa Quote: _ _ O TEMPORA, O CASI! :-) CERTVS ES? NON ENIM CREDO ;-)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #57 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 20 Apr 2013, 6:22 p.m., in response to message #56 by Walter B _ _ _ _ _ SECUNDUM wiktionary, AUT CASE AUT CASI, NON CASVS (CASVS VOCATIVUS) :-)

Latin Lesson - Romans Go Home Message #58 Posted by Mark Hardman on 20 Apr 2013, 7:07 p.m., in response to message #57 by Gerson W. Barbosa From Monty Python's The Life Of Brian.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #59 Posted by Walter B on 21 Apr 2013, 1:26 a.m., in response to message #57 by Gerson W. Barbosa Quote: _ _ _ _ _ SECUNDUM wiktionary, AUT CASE AUT CASI, NON CASVS (CASVS VOCATIVUS) :-) The problem seems to sit in front of wiktionary in this case (pun intended). Please read a bit further in said article. d:-)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #60 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 21 Apr 2013, 1:45 a.m., in response to message #59 by Walter B Right you are, sorry! I completely missed the second table. CAECVS SVM! |-( Edited: 21 Apr 2013, 1:50 a.m.

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #61 Posted by Mike Morrow on 20 Apr 2013, 7:45 p.m., in response to message #53 by Gilles Carpentier Ethay Imepray unsray eallyray astfay! (Igpay Atinlay)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #62 Posted by Patrice on 21 Apr 2013, 6:53 a.m., in response to message #52 by Patrice Whaooo, you took it seriously guys. :)

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #63 Posted by Walter B on 21 Apr 2013, 7:53 a.m., in response to message #62 by Patrice Let's call it bird Latin ...

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #64 Posted by Ren on 2 May 2013, 1:04 p.m., in response to message #62 by Patrice (seen recently on Facebook) Roadrunner: top speed 23 mph Coyote: top speed 40mph MY WHOLE LIFE HAS BEEN A LIE!

Re: HP Prime Marketing Video Message #65 Posted by Mic on 23 Apr 2013, 5:51 a.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Ultra HD picture of the HP Prime : http://www.calc-bank.com/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1909 Enjoy

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