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Creeping black pattern on HP-11C screen
Message #1 Posted by Larry Gagnon on 11 Apr 2013, 8:21 p.m.

My venerable 30 year old HP-11C is getting a black splodge on the LCD screen (when calculator is both on and off), and seems to be growing with age. A photo of the problem is below.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByRUk1Zt3XiLTlpXdHJ0QVE5TEU/edit?usp=sharing

Can anything be done about this?

Larry

HP-11C photo LCD problem

      
Re: Creeping black pattern on HP-11C screen
Message #2 Posted by Eric Smith on 11 Apr 2013, 8:25 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Larry Gagnon

The only way to fix that is to replace the LCD assembly with another one from the same era. It can be from a 12C, which is of course the easiest to find.

On later units, HP changed the display multiplexing, so the displays aren't interchangeable with the older units. I'm not sure exactly when that happened.

      
Re: Creeping black pattern on HP-11C screen
Message #3 Posted by aj04062 on 11 Apr 2013, 9:46 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Larry Gagnon

you should post a picture of the battery contacts. That would help forum members guide you on what era LCD you should look for.

            
Re: Creeping black pattern on HP-11C screen
Message #4 Posted by Larry Gagnon on 11 Apr 2013, 10:17 p.m.,
in response to message #3 by aj04062

OK, here is a photo of the battery contact: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByRUk1Zt3XiLZ1MzaWJlVkY5S3M/edit?usp=sharing battery contacts

Also the serial # is: USA 2716A13463 (if that helps).

So what version of HP calcs can I get the LCD screen replacement from?

Larry

                  
Re: Creeping black pattern on HP-11C screen
Message #5 Posted by aj04062 on 12 Apr 2013, 6:53 a.m.,
in response to message #4 by Larry Gagnon

Yours is a later model so you should look for a 12C with srarting serial numbers close to yours such as 24, 25, 26. I don't know how early you can go, but I am pretty sure these would have compatible LCDs. Good thing is there are plenty of 12Cs around.

edited to remove 27 & 28. Thanks Randy

Edited: 12 Apr 2013, 9:23 p.m. after one or more responses were posted

                        
Re: Creeping black pattern on HP-11C screen
Message #6 Posted by Randy on 12 Apr 2013, 10:13 a.m.,
in response to message #5 by aj04062

I would avoid serials beginning with 27 and 28. They changed the 12C design late in 1987 and the replacement unit might well have the wrong version LCD. The 15C and 11C change followed the 12C sometime later in 1988.

The way to know for sure is be the number of IC's. Your 11C should have two and the LCD must come from a 12C with two IC's as well. If you open your donor 12C and see only one chip, the LCD is not compatible.

                  
Re: Creeping black pattern on HP-11C screen
Message #7 Posted by Peter Murphy (Livermore) on 12 Apr 2013, 10:09 a.m.,
in response to message #4 by Larry Gagnon

A 27xx serial number indicates manufacture in 1960 + 27 = 1987; etc.


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