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Error Message/Procedure HP-48SX with TDS Survey SX card Message #1 Posted by bporter101 on 7 Dec 2012, 10:27 a.m. I need help, We reciently acquired a HP-48SX with a TDS Survey SX card. I have been trying to initialize the Survey card but get the following error. "Port 2 Unconfigured" I use the following proceedure to install the program 1. Reset the Hp-48SX 2. Insert the 128k Memory card into port 2 3. Insert the TDS survey SX card into port 1 4. turn on the hp-48Sx 5. Select the number 2 (shift-Left), Memory, Nxt, Nxt, f1 (Merge) 6. Select (Alpha) (Alpha) TDS48 the program installes and states Install memory card 7. I turn off the Hp-48SX and restart 8. Select (Alpha) (Alpha) TDS48 the program begins to load and start when I get the above error message. I seem to remember that you had to swap cards at one point, but cannot get this to work, everytime I reverse the cards and install the program with the proceedure above, then swap the cards, the HP-48SX clears out the memory. I know I am doing something wrong proceedure wise, can anybody help with this? Thanks

Re: Error Message/Procedure HP-48SX with TDS Survey SX card Message #2 Posted by Han on 7 Dec 2012, 2:14 p.m., in response to message #1 by bporter101 Try not MERGE'ing the memory. Instead, just plug the software card into slot 1, and a RAM card into slot 2. To unmerge currently merged memory, use the FREE command

Re: Error Message/Procedure HP-48SX with TDS Survey SX card Message #3 Posted by bporter101 on 7 Dec 2012, 4:09 p.m., in response to message #2 by Han Thank you for getting back with me, When I reset the hp-48SX and place the program card into port 1 and the memory card into part 2 and hit (alpha) (alpha) TDS48 it askes ststes "Insert Install Card" When I Reset the Hp-48SX and place the program into port 2 and the memory card into port 1 then hit alpha) (alpha) TDS48 it states "sto error" "insufficient memory" "Library 781: TDSL" I get the error above no matter if the memory card is in or not, unless I merge the memory. I have tried to unmerge and swap cards also with no luck. I have tested the memory card with a HP-48GX with TDS Survey Pro and it works, I even tried the Survey SX card which is version 4.0 in the HP-48GX and actually got it working, however when ever I tried to open a job It kept asking me to clear all memory on the memory card when I reset it, it will not create the job, when I try again it asks to clear all memory on the memory card. When I say no to this message it just does not create the job. Thank you for all the help Edited: 7 Dec 2012, 4:37 p.m.

Re: Error Message/Procedure HP-48SX with TDS Survey SX card Message #4 Posted by Han on 7 Dec 2012, 9:29 p.m., in response to message #3 by bporter101 Quote: When I reset the hp-48SX and place the program card into port 1 and the memory card into part 2 and hit (alpha) (alpha) TDS48 it askes ststes "Insert Install Card" When I Reset the Hp-48SX and place the program into port 2 and the memory card into port 1 then hit alpha) (alpha) TDS48 it states "sto error" "insufficient memory" "Library 781: TDSL" I would try putting the ROM card into slot 2, and the RAM card into slot 1 and MERGE'ing card slot 1 with main memory. Then run TDS48. Quote: I get the error above no matter if the memory card is in or not, unless I merge the memory. I have tried to unmerge and swap cards also with no luck. What do you mean by "Memory card" -- both ROM and RAM cards are memory cards. Do you mean the software (ROM) card? or the RAM card? Quote: I have tested the memory card with a HP-48GX with TDS Survey Pro and it works My understanding is that the HP48GX software works differently in that you do you have initially use card slot 2 for the ROM card and then do a swap to card slot 1. Quote: I even tried the Survey SX card which is version 4.0 in the HP-48GX and actually got it working, however when ever I tried to open a job It kept asking me to clear all memory on the memory card when I reset it, it will not create the job, when I try again it asks to clear all memory on the memory card. When I say no to this message it just does not create the job. I got confused reading this: you say "got it working" and then immediately describe how it is not working... ? Are you getting a "Try to Recover Memory" prompt? Is that what you mean by clearing all memory? Or is it asking to initialize the RAM card?

Re: Error Message/Procedure HP-48SX with TDS Survey SX card Message #5 Posted by bporter101 on 8 Dec 2012, 12:23 p.m., in response to message #4 by Han Thank you for responding, Sorry I tend to overthink my answers anb will clearify. Quote: I would try putting the ROM card into slot 2, and the RAM card into slot 1 and MERGE'ing card slot 1 with main memory. Then run TDS48. Response I have tried this, When I Merge memery to port 2 and run TDS48 the program installs then askes to "turn off and insert memory card into port 2" I turn the hp-48 off and then back on again type (Alpha) (Alpha) tds48 and the program begins to load (I see the copyright) up but then errors out with the message "Port 2 unconfigured" Quote: What do you mean by "Memory card" -- both ROM and RAM cards are memory cards. Do you mean the software (ROM) card? or the RAM card? Response Sorry about that, I was thinking a Program card and Memory card. but in this case I was talking about RAM Card. Quote: My understanding is that the HP48GX software works differently in that you do you have initially use card slot 2 for the ROM card and then do a swap to card slot 1. Response Yes that is correct. I assumed that all of the TDS software did this. Quote: I got confused reading this: you say "got it working" and then immediately describe how it is not working... ? Response Sorry, What I ment was I got the software to initalize and start up to the main menu howeve when I try to create a job I have the issue stated and counld not test any further. The use of the HP-48GX was used to verify that the Program Card (ROM) Card was working correctly. Quote: Are you getting a "Try to Recover Memory" prompt? Is that what you mean by clearing all memory? Or is it asking to initialize the RAM card? Response No, when I attempt to Create a Job it gives me the normal job setup screen, I then give it a name and select "Create" it immediately goes to "Delete all data in port 2? (Y/N)" If I say yes, it dropes me out of the program and does not create the new job. I then go back into the software TDS48 and try it again however it does the same thing. When I say No, it dropes me out of the program TDS48 and states data not saved. I then go back into the software TDS48 and try it again however it does the same thing. Thank you, I hope this helps clearify.

Re: Error Message/Procedure HP-48SX with TDS Survey SX card Message #6 Posted by Han on 9 Dec 2012, 12:59 a.m., in response to message #5 by bporter101 It has been a while, and perhaps I am not remembering correctly, but I do not think the SX version of the TDS software requires any swapping. The only thing I can suggest is to do a complete reset: 1. Merge port 1; merge port 2; press [ON]+[A]+[F] and answer [NO]. 2. Free port 1 and 2. 3. Try to reinstall with just the software card in slot 1 and RAM card in slot 2. If it claims that there is not enough memory, try merging port 2. Then when it says to install a memory card, unmerge port 2. If that does not work, then I do not have any other suggestions. Perhaps someone else may know more.. ?

Re: Error Message/Procedure HP-48SX with TDS Survey SX card Message #7 Posted by bporter101 on 10 Dec 2012, 10:18 a.m., in response to message #6 by Han Quote: It has been a while, and perhaps I am not remembering correctly, but I do not think the SX version of the TDS software requires any swapping. The only thing I can suggest is to do a complete reset: 1. Merge port 1; merge port 2; press [ON]+[A]+[F] and answer [NO]. 2. Free port 1 and 2. 3. Try to reinstall with just the software card in slot 1 and RAM card in slot 2. If it claims that there is not enough memory, try merging port 2. Then when it says to install a memory card, unmerge port 2. If that does not work, then I do not have any other suggestions. Perhaps someone else may know more.. ? Sorry no luck, program begins to load, then I get "PORT 2 UNCONFIGURED" Thank you for the feedback

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