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Virtual HP41 and Virtual HP-IL
Message #1 Posted by Mike (Stgt) on 12 Sept 2012, 11:36 a.m.

Is there a virtual HP41 that goes withChristoph Giesselinks Virtual HP-IL? Alas no, AFAIK. Or is there someone at it? Should I do it? (There is a 'IL add on' for the Nonpareil-HP41, but does it talk with ILPer/ILSope/etc.?)

Well, the HP-71B (and Emu71/Win) is the better IL controller but I feel more comfortable with the HP41.

Ciao.....Mike

      
Re: Virtual HP41 and Virtual HP-IL
Message #2 Posted by Howard Owen on 12 Sept 2012, 5:54 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Mike (Stgt)

Emu41 by J.F. Garnier works with the virtual HP-IL. It's a console (DOS) based program, but it quite a capable emulator.

http://www.jeffcalc.hp41.eu/emu41/index.html

Edited to correct link.

Edited: 13 Sept 2012, 3:11 a.m. after one or more responses were posted

            
Re: Virtual HP41 and Virtual HP-IL
Message #3 Posted by Sylvain Cote on 12 Sept 2012, 11:53 p.m.,
in response to message #2 by Howard Owen

Yes but it's limited to it's own virtual devices inside emu41.
Since MS-DOS does not have a TCP-IP stack, emu41 cannot establish a socket with Christoph virtual devices.
One solution will be to share alternatively a LIF drive between the two simulated world (emu41 & emu71).
A second solution requires 2 PIL-Box with a setup like this ...
emu41 -> VCOM over USB -> PIL-Box-1 -> HP-IL -> PIL-Box-2 -> VCOM over USB -> ILPer -> other virtual devices

                  
Re: Virtual HP41 and Virtual HP-IL
Message #4 Posted by Egan Ford on 13 Sept 2012, 11:51 a.m.,
in response to message #3 by Sylvain Cote

Quote:
Since MS-DOS does not have a TCP-IP stack
There are IP stacks for DOS. Google for packet driver.
Quote:
One solution will be to share alternatively a LIF drive between the two simulated world (emu41 & emu71).
A second solution requires 2 PIL-Box with a setup like this ...
emu41 -> VCOM over USB -> PIL-Box-1 -> HP-IL -> PIL-Box-2 -> VCOM over USB -> ILPer -> other virtual devices
Another option would be to add IP support to EMU41 and/or Nonpareil. Both are open source.
                        
Re: Virtual HP41 and Virtual HP-IL
Message #5 Posted by Sylvain Cote on 13 Sept 2012, 11:23 p.m.,
in response to message #4 by Egan Ford

Quote:
There are IP stacks for DOS. Google for packet driver.

You are right.
But what I meant was that Microsoft did not include a generic IP stack with a standard API that would have been included on all MS-DOS machine.
                              
Re: Virtual HP41 and Virtual HP-IL
Message #6 Posted by Mike (Stgt) on 17 Sept 2012, 1:47 p.m.,
in response to message #5 by Sylvain Cote

Thanks for everybody who replied. Seems a tricky thing. BTW, TCPIP did work on DOS in some way as "we" used the HP200LX for eMail and such things quite well, with modem or via IrDA mobiles.

Ciao.....Mike


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