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DM-15cc arrived
Message #1 Posted by Ethan Conner on 14 Aug 2012, 4:18 p.m.

My DM-15cc is here and i've had a chance to play with it. I can tell after installing a new battery that this will be just a collectable and not a daily driver. One of the screw posts came loose. The display is a little dim except at work where the bright lights help. The keyboard is better than i thought it would be but still must be operated with care to not press the wrong key. The display cover is touching the lcd in several spots causing that "rainbow" look. Considering the form factor, that it had to travel from China to Texas i would say a very impressive result. Thanks to Michael for all his effort. :)

      
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #2 Posted by Mike Morrow on 14 Aug 2012, 5:51 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Ethan Conner

Quote:
...it had to travel from China to Texas i would say a very impressive result.

Chine??? Mine came in a package handled through the Swiss Post and Customs, 18 days after I ordered all five versions.

            
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #3 Posted by Ethan Conner on 14 Aug 2012, 6:51 p.m.,
in response to message #2 by Mike Morrow

They are made in China. Mine also was delivered with a Swiss postmark.

                  
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #4 Posted by Lincoln R. on 14 Aug 2012, 9:02 p.m.,
in response to message #3 by Ethan Conner

Mine also shipped from Switzerland. My guess is that Michael had a factory in China make the PCBs and maybe the metal case backs, and then had them sent to him for programming and the front/back stickers. That way he doesn't have to guess how many of each model will sell since I believe the hardware is identical, it's just the firmware/stickers.

                        
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #5 Posted by db (martinez, ca.) on 14 Aug 2012, 10:21 p.m.,
in response to message #4 by Lincoln R.

My 15 got here Monday after six weeks in the mail. I like it.

      
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #6 Posted by Prabhu Bhooplapur on 15 Aug 2012, 9:33 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Ethan Conner

Mine arrived about two weeks ago in good shape via Swiss Post. The first impressions are good except the keyboard could have been better in terms of contact pressure consistency and display a little more clearer and smaller. Good work Michael!

      
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #7 Posted by Neil Hamilton (Ottawa) on 15 Aug 2012, 11:08 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Ethan Conner

I came in to work a couple of weeks ago and my boss slaps this tape encrusted blob of little black golden ratio rectangles down on my desk -- a 5 pack of this latest generation. He kept the -15 for himself but I have the rest!

I also have a -15 from their first generation and these new ones certainly have a better keyboard than that first generation. So far I have had very few problems.

About the only thing I have noticed is the inconsistent alignment of the USB connector through the side of the case. I might have to take the back off to reprogram a few of these ones.

I too had a few that had the "rainbow" effect but I have found that this issue has resolved itself over time. I am not seeing it now.

There is one thing I don't exactly understand. Occasionally, the display will go all sparkly random pixels and needs to be turned off and on to clear. I suspect that it is actually a programmed feature that has something to do with a timeout but I have yet to figure out the exact relationship.

I love that in the new F/W you can turn it down from 48 to 12 MHz since I don't need the quick computational power. I suspect that this extends the battery by a good deal. Yet to measure that though.

Very cool little devices -- always have one on me somewhere!

BTW: I can report that the -11 donor ROM is from the second generation that does not have the backspace bug. I have an original -11C that does have this bug.

      
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #8 Posted by Jeff Johnson on 15 Aug 2012, 9:04 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Ethan Conner

Just got a text from my son that my DM-15CC arrived today. Ordered July 3rd, but didn't make it to Indiana (USA) until today. Maybe the Customs Officials were playing with it for a couple of weeks :o)

Unfortunately, I'm out of town today, so won't be able to try it out until tomorrow. Sigh. My two youngest sons may have it worn out by then.

            
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #9 Posted by Mark Scheuern on 15 Aug 2012, 9:45 p.m.,
in response to message #8 by Jeff Johnson

Looks like they're starting to flow in. I'm in Michigan and ordered mine on July 3, too. Soon I hope... .

                  
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #10 Posted by Ethan Conner on 15 Aug 2012, 11:19 p.m.,
in response to message #9 by Mark Scheuern

Mine was a July 3rd order also and i contacted Michael and he said it didn't actually ship till mid month sometime. He also warned me economy shipping might be a little slower than normal.

                        
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #11 Posted by Mark Scheuern on 16 Aug 2012, 7:23 a.m.,
in response to message #10 by Ethan Conner

Thanks Ethan. I had wondered if maybe there had been a delay in shipping.

                        
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #12 Posted by Mark Scheuern on 16 Aug 2012, 6:26 p.m.,
in response to message #10 by Ethan Conner

My DM-15CC arrived today and I have to say that I'm quite impressed. It doesn't seem to have the "rainbow" problem and, while the keys do need quite a bit of pressure, I was surprised at how nicely they click. I have noticed that sometimes the On key will click but not actually turn the calculator on or off, requiring another key press, but I'm really pleased with it, over-all, and wouldn't hesitate to get one of its siblings.

Edited: 16 Aug 2012, 6:26 p.m.

                              
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #13 Posted by db (martinez, ca.) on 16 Aug 2012, 9:59 p.m.,
in response to message #12 by Mark Scheuern

Mark; Either i'm just getting the hang of it or my keys are working better now than at first. No complaints.

Edited: 16 Aug 2012, 10:01 p.m.

                                    
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #14 Posted by Bart (UK) on 17 Aug 2012, 5:06 p.m.,
in response to message #13 by db (martinez, ca.)

I have one of the first series DM-15CC, I found the keyboard improved with use. It is one calculator i truly have had in my pocket since the day I got it: pocket DM-15CC.

      
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #15 Posted by Aasmund Kvamme on 16 Aug 2012, 4:37 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Ethan Conner

Quote:
One of the screw posts came loose.

This happened to me also; any suggestions on how I should fix it? I want to try some "superglue", but I don't want to do something wrong.

            
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #16 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 16 Aug 2012, 6:07 a.m.,
in response to message #15 by Aasmund Kvamme

I did so and it worked. Be careful when disassembling it as you will separating LCD and PCB. Use a sharp knife to get the top shell off.

            
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #17 Posted by Cristian Arezzini on 16 Aug 2012, 6:25 a.m.,
in response to message #15 by Aasmund Kvamme

Quote:

This happened to me also; any suggestions on how I should fix it? I want to try some "superglue", but I don't want to do something wrong.


The posts are soldered to the mainboard (at least they are in my early unit). When one of my posts came off, I just resoldered it (it was an easy enough job) and it hasn't come off since.

Cristian

                  
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #18 Posted by aurelio on 16 Aug 2012, 6:41 a.m.,
in response to message #17 by Cristian Arezzini

Quote:

The posts are soldered to the mainboard (at least they are in my early unit). When one of my posts came off, I just resoldered it (it was an easy enough job) and it hasn't come off since.

Cristian


Ciao Cristian, let me understand....soldered means........ "glued"? I have seen only pictures of those thumbnail calculator, but I guess that post are plastic made...may you help me, grazie.

Edited: 16 Aug 2012, 6:42 a.m.

                        
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #19 Posted by Harald on 16 Aug 2012, 11:32 a.m.,
in response to message #18 by aurelio

No, they are metal and they are soldered.

                              
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #20 Posted by aurelio on 16 Aug 2012, 12:35 p.m.,
in response to message #19 by Harald

Thank-you Harald, now I understand. Then I found this movie and all it's clear.

Yesterday I took out my "Praetorius" garklein recorder by Hopf that I played for quite a long time in my youth with a local renaissance consort ensemble, It was just for a hystorical ancient music instruments exhibition in a small town not far from here...............well, before to take there the small recorder I tryed to play it... Only after half an hour of exercises, and hundreds attempts, I was able to play a good scale and begin to really play it!!! Now I wonder if with these "mini" calculators the trial could be the same, while playing, them. Cheers

Edited: 16 Aug 2012, 1:52 p.m.

      
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #21 Posted by Daniel Diggelmann on 17 Aug 2012, 6:17 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Ethan Conner

My DM-15cc also arrived this week and I'm pleased with it. Truly shirt pocketable size. The leather case which is made of genuine leather is actually better than the one from HP. Michael is apparently working on a HP-41CX. This will be an exiting micro calc.

Regards, Daniel

            
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #22 Posted by Matt Agajanian on 17 Aug 2012, 6:23 p.m.,
in response to message #21 by Daniel Diggelmann

A DM-41CX...Now that I need to see! Perhaps it will use MicroSD cards for storage.

Edited: 17 Aug 2012, 6:25 p.m.

            
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #23 Posted by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) on 17 Aug 2012, 6:30 p.m.,
in response to message #21 by Daniel Diggelmann

Quote:
Michael is apparently working on a HP-41CX. This will be an exiting micro calc.

It will surely be! :)
                  
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #24 Posted by db (martinez, ca.) on 17 Aug 2012, 7:22 p.m.,
in response to message #23 by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy)

1) Yes; that's the best case ever supplied with a calculator.

2) NO NO NO NO NO. We don't need a Micro 41. That would just be a novelty. Something like a full sized and usable 42 but with connectability and a big memory would be great though.

                        
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #25 Posted by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) on 17 Aug 2012, 7:46 p.m.,
in response to message #24 by db (martinez, ca.)

Quote:
2) NO NO NO NO NO. We don't need a Micro 41. That would just be a novelty. Something like a full sized and usable 42 but with connectability and a big memory would be great though.

Agreed, but it seems they are also working on something new... ;) I'll keep an eye on it, for sure.

Massimo
                        
Re: DM-15cc arrived
Message #26 Posted by aurelio on 18 Aug 2012, 2:55 a.m.,
in response to message #24 by db (martinez, ca.)

Agree with the full sized, USABLE, connectable 42s!!!

And, by the way, the micro 41 should be, at least, a CL with IR interface on board.....how, if not, could be replicated in "micro" the universe of the plugins suited for that system? But I've my reserves about the the size, as I told in a previous post, and the "full usability" of these pretty toys, sure JEWELS in a collection context. Maybe I need just to handle one of those ..and find that I was completely wrong, who knows?

Edited: 18 Aug 2012, 4:14 a.m.


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