HP Forum Archive 21

[ Return to Index | Top of Index ]

Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #1 Posted by John W Kercheval on 8 May 2012, 9:27 a.m. Carlie's reign as head of HP was marked by amazing accomplishments and even a couple of setbacks. When she left HP to pursue a career in politics (are we in for President Fiorina? many would hope so) she left a void at the helm that could never be filled. As it relates to this board, she was known as the father (mother?) of handhelds and esp. the HP handheld marque. The question is: As experts, consumers and developers how did you benefit from her leadership? What innovations and/or products and/or anything else do you most admire from her HP leadership? External development from smaller places also count in this poll. Thanks, John

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #2 Posted by Raymond Wiker on 8 May 2012, 11:05 a.m., in response to message #1 by John W Kercheval I really hope you're joking.

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #3 Posted by M. Joury on 8 May 2012, 11:07 a.m., in response to message #2 by Raymond Wiker LOL. I was waiting for that. I didn't want to be the first <g>. Cheers, -Marwan

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #4 Posted by Alex S on 8 May 2012, 4:48 p.m., in response to message #2 by Raymond Wiker Raymond, YMMD! Many thanks, Alex

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #5 Posted by db (martinez, ca.) on 8 May 2012, 11:10 a.m., in response to message #1 by John W Kercheval Maybe i'm remembering wrong but didn't carlie preside over the gutting of the calculator division and the rise of the (printer) machines? More like the mother of the cheap printer with expensive ink cartridges.

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #6 Posted by bill platt on 8 May 2012, 11:26 a.m., in response to message #5 by db (martinez, ca.) Yes, as in, "gee, Epson made a lot of money that way in the 90s. Maybe we can make a lot of money that way now." The 1st printer I threw out the 2nd story window was an Epson color jet. The second printer I threw out the window was an HP1006, more recently. The printer I wish would have lasted forever was an HP Laserjet III. It was the size of a small ice box but very economical to run! Edited: 8 May 2012, 11:26 a.m.

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #7 Posted by Walter B on 8 May 2012, 11:50 a.m., in response to message #1 by John W Kercheval We loved her sooo much we wanted to meet her twice at once: the first and the last time. Her successor apparently was a bit less capable but I heard saying he stumbled across the typical national bigotry (may the Lord prevent Europe from these laws forever). And then leadership at HP rose and rose ad infinitum :-/

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #8 Posted by John W Kercheval on 8 May 2012, 11:55 a.m., in response to message #7 by Walter B Walt: Yes we were at once unhappy and happy at her departure. A huge loss for HP & business in general, but a gain for the world political stage... 2016??? I do not think handheld development has done much since her de facto invention, development, launch, and advancement of the HP48GX and its peripherals and plug-ins. There does not seem to be much offered now, at HP or elsewhere. Although the HP41CL (not offered by HP) is a miracle of engineering.

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #9 Posted by Walter B on 8 May 2012, 12:06 p.m., in response to message #8 by John W Kercheval John, Please allow me quoting an Irish traditional: "De sea, oh, de sea, long may it stay between England and me!" ... and replace 'England' with the name of your favourite HP chairperson ... ummh ... politician, designated president (please insert whatever you prefer or wherever you want to get her deposited). Wishing you all the best you deserve ;-)

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #10 Posted by John W Kercheval on 8 May 2012, 12:18 p.m., in response to message #9 by Walter B No problem. Just as we all, even the Irish, benefited from Einstein, Jonas Salk, and others, Ms. Fiorina is indeed a gift to all of us. Now the bailout of Ireland from bankruptcy.. only the Irish got something from that. But still waiting for Carlie's best impact on you- a superlative handheld user.

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #11 Posted by M. Joury on 8 May 2012, 1:00 p.m., in response to message #8 by John W Kercheval Ah, now you really got to be kidding. The 48GX was launched in 1993 while Carly took over at HP in 1999. On another note, during Carly's tenure at HP the companies stock took a beating. Cheers, -Marwan

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #12 Posted by John W Kercheval on 8 May 2012, 1:10 p.m., in response to message #11 by M. Joury Yes but it was Carlie who inspired the GX. This is called "retrograde inspiration." The GX engineering team was inspired by the future of HP and Ms. Fiorina was this future. Also Carlie's departure signaled the end of handhelds as we know them. There are few, if any, who do not consider her the finest leader HP has ever had, that includes Messers. Hewlett & Packard themselves. If Ms, Fiorina had been in that garage back then.... I shudder to think of the incredible results.

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #13 Posted by M. Joury on 8 May 2012, 1:14 p.m., in response to message #12 by John W Kercheval LOL. With you all the way. Maybe we can name the next great HP calc in her honor. Forget the HP50Gii we'll just go right on to the HP51CF. Just make sure to provide it with a wide ENTER key to give unto her the ultimate honor. Cheers, -Marwan

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #14 Posted by John W Kercheval on 8 May 2012, 1:24 p.m., in response to message #13 by M. Joury On a rare non-carlie note. HP 50Gii.. what is this? Is there, in fact ANOTHER HP calc of note coming out? Or is this just a code name fore wishful thinking?

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #15 Posted by M. Joury on 8 May 2012, 1:37 p.m., in response to message #14 by John W Kercheval There is some hope (with more than a dash of wishful thinking I suspect) that the arrival in China (and hopefully soon to be available in the US) of the 39gii foreshadows a new RPN graphics machine. Cheers, -Marwan

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #16 Posted by John W Kercheval on 8 May 2012, 1:42 p.m., in response to message #15 by M. Joury Ok I will check it out. Is the 39Gii a better handheld than the GX?

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #17 Posted by M. Joury on 8 May 2012, 1:56 p.m., in response to message #16 by John W Kercheval The 39gii is a follow-on to the 39gs. A very nice calculator in it's own right but not in the same class or build for the same purposes as the 48GX. here are some features of the 39gs (some apply to the gii). 1. The 39gs was deigned primarily as a student machine. 2. No RPN/RPL. Programmable in something called HP BASIC (very BASIC like language). The gii version is supposedly much more powerful than the gs version (I own and use a gs but have not been able to get hold of a gii yet). 3. Has applets that you can do some pretty cool things with. 4. Limited to 26 single character real variables (gs--the gii I believe has more flexibility). There are also variables of other types such as lists and arrays. 5. Has soft menus but (at least in the case of the gs) they are pretty limited in how you can use them unless you program in SysRPL or handle keycodes within your program. 6. Decent and easy to read keyboard. That should get you started. A search of the web will get you much more info. Cheers, -Marwan

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #18 Posted by John W Kercheval on 8 May 2012, 2:36 p.m., in response to message #17 by M. Joury Marwan: Inspired by Carlie I only step UP! Buying that think would be like trading my RR Silver Spirit III in for a Bentley. JK

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #19 Posted by bill platt on 8 May 2012, 2:49 p.m., in response to message #18 by John W Kercheval Bentley <> Rolls Royce as BMW <> Daimler Benz Mercedes

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #20 Posted by John B. Smitherman on 8 May 2012, 3:10 p.m., in response to message #12 by John W Kercheval Quote: Also Carlie's departure signaled the end of handhelds as we know them. Carlie's arrival signaled the end of HP as we knew it. I fixed it for you.

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #21 Posted by Alex S on 8 May 2012, 5:11 p.m., in response to message #12 by John W Kercheval Quote: There are few, if any, who do not consider her the finest leader HP has ever had, that includes Messers. Hewlett & Packard themselves. If Ms, Fiorina had been in that garage back then.... I shudder to think of the incredible results. I am no english native speaker, so maybe I am missing your irony here. I saw Fiorina coming and going as an HP employee, and believe me, things were worse afterwards. Much worse. And not only the stock price. I shudder thinking about Bill and Dave turning in their grave, if they would have seen Fiorina roaring in their company. SCNR, Alex

Re: Carlie Fiorina & HP & Handhelds Message #22 Posted by Cheyenne Whitley on 8 May 2012, 6:11 p.m., in response to message #8 by John W Kercheval Quote: Yes we were at once unhappy and happy at her departure. A huge loss for HP & business in general, but a gain for the world political stage... 2016??? Agree on the happiness at her departure. As a business executive at HP, she caused many of us to lose thousands and cajoled the HP Board into an astounding departure financial package. 2016??? I would hope we would reelect Romney.

[ Return to Index | Top of Index ]

Go back to the main exhibit hall