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HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #1 Posted by MK-52 on 18 Dec 2011, 10:24 a.m. July Inc., a HP calculators distributor in Japan, announced HP won't fix PSE bug because "the behaviour is by design". :-( Edited: 18 Dec 2011, 10:28 a.m.

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #2 Posted by Lincoln R. on 18 Dec 2011, 11:37 a.m., in response to message #1 by MK-52 I don't believe that. HP themselves admits that it is a bug, this sounds like loudmouthing on the part of a distributor.

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #3 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 18 Dec 2011, 12:19 p.m., in response to message #1 by MK-52 Do they claim literally that this is an official HP announcment? Any chance to translate the text into readable english?

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #4 Posted by MK-52 on 18 Dec 2011, 1:08 p.m., in response to message #3 by Thomas Radtke July.co.jp (Japanese) Quote: 2. Problems reported on www.hpmuseum.org Problems will not be resolved. HP's view is "these are by design". Sorry for my poor translation. I am not sure this is an HP official announcement. At least HP told them that they won't fix bugs. Edited: 18 Dec 2011, 1:14 p.m.

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #5 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 18 Dec 2011, 1:31 p.m., in response to message #4 by MK-52 Quote: July.co.jp (Japanese) Sorry for my poor translation. I am not sure this is an HP official announcement. At least HP told them that they won't fix bugs. Thank you very much for your finding and the translation! I'm sure *someone* told July so. However, I'm not sure if one hand of HP knows what the other does ;-). No really, there where so many things messed up around the 15C LE, I wouldn't wonder if that 'announcement' means nothing.

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #6 Posted by Michael de Estrada on 18 Dec 2011, 1:51 p.m., in response to message #5 by Thomas Radtke I think the proper translation from Japanese is "Screw You."

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #7 Posted by db (martinez, ca.) on 18 Dec 2011, 1:17 p.m., in response to message #1 by MK-52 This is the smallest and most inconsequential of the bugs. For the time&energy cost of using a run-stop command instead and pressing r/s, one gets to have time to write down or store the intermediate answer. The only loss is to the pride of the programmer and i'm not sure how many programmers have any pride in their work any more, or shame for that matter.

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #8 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 18 Dec 2011, 1:21 p.m., in response to message #7 by db (martinez, ca.) Quote: The only loss is to the pride of the programmer and i'm not sure how many programmers have any pride in their work any more... There are some, the designers of this piece of software being among them, for sure! I assume that there will be no official return policy but a new image will eventually appear for those having the means to upgrade the firmware in their devices.

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #9 Posted by Michael de Estrada on 18 Dec 2011, 1:38 p.m., in response to message #8 by Marcus von Cube, Germany I assume you are beating a dead horse.

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #10 Posted by Ethan Conner on 18 Dec 2011, 1:54 p.m., in response to message #9 by Michael de Estrada Lol !

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #11 Posted by db (martinez, ca.) on 18 Dec 2011, 2:31 p.m., in response to message #9 by Michael de Estrada Michael; Tell me that theres not some programmers (at microsoft or for windows-based products) that you wouldn't like to beat with a dead horse.

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #12 Posted by Michael de Estrada on 18 Dec 2011, 2:59 p.m., in response to message #11 by db (martinez, ca.) I wasn't aware that Microsoft employed any programmers.

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #13 Posted by db (martinez, ca.) on 18 Dec 2011, 2:27 p.m., in response to message #8 by Marcus von Cube, Germany Quote: There are some, the designers of this piece of software being among them, for sure! Absolutely. He writes good code. Before this, Tim and his partner John Evers wrote what i think is the best fully integrated surveying program on the market. And it's for an hp too. I have three of those 15Cs and have no regrets at all but i will update the software when it comes available. I think it's great that that is possible. The trinity of the wp34s are no slouches either.

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #14 Posted by Katie Wasserman on 18 Dec 2011, 2:18 p.m., in response to message #7 by db (martinez, ca.) I agree. While it would be nice to have the PSE bug fixed, I think that the power consumption problem and low-battery memory loss issues are much more important.

Re: HP won't fix PSE bug on 15CLE? Message #15 Posted by Eddie W. Shore on 18 Dec 2011, 3:51 p.m., in response to message #7 by db (martinez, ca.) Quote: This is the smallest and most inconsequential of the bugs. For the time&energy cost of using a run-stop command instead and pressing r/s, one gets to have time to write down or store the intermediate answer. The only loss is to the pride of the programmer and i'm not sure how many programmers have any pride in their work any more, or shame for that matter. It would be nice if PSE works as it should, even though I prefer to R/S to PSE.

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