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Artist of HP Manuals Message #1 Posted by Csaba Tizedes (Hungary) on 19 May 2011, 4:55 a.m. Can anybody tell me any information about the graphic artist of earlier HP Manuals? Who is this person, where can I see more works from he/she, actually he/she active as artist, or something similar... Thanks for any info!

Re: Artist of HP Manuals Message #2 Posted by Glenn Shields on 28 May 2011, 3:19 p.m., in response to message #1 by Csaba Tizedes (Hungary) These are great images, and although I haven't saved any of my old manuals (or calculators) one must ask, is there no one with such a manual who can just look through it and see if the artist is listed? Not to sound impertinent, but isn't that the main purpose of this forum, rather than so much "repurposing" and whatnot? Thanks so much in advance.

Re: Artist of HP Manuals Message #3 Posted by Jim Yohe on 28 May 2011, 3:49 p.m., in response to message #2 by Glenn Shields :-bd

Re: Artist of HP Manuals Message #4 Posted by Garth Wilson on 28 May 2011, 4:28 p.m., in response to message #2 by Glenn Shields Quote: These are great images, and although I haven't saved any of my old manuals (or calculators) one must ask, is there no one with such a manual who can just look through it and see if the artist is listed? Not to sound impertinent, but isn't that the main purpose of this forum, rather than so much "repurposing" and whatnot? Thanks so much in advance. I have the HP-85 Owner's Manual and Programming Guide, (c)1979, p/n 00085-90002 Rev. D 1/81, and the HP-85 I/O Programming Guide, (c)1980, p/n 00085-90142 Rev. C 2/81, both with that kind of pictures, but I don't see credits in either one. These manuals BTW appear to be completely unused except that they've been in and out of 3-ring binders and bookshelves, and I don't have an HP-85 and probably never will; so I guess I should eBay them unless someone offers a reasonable price before I get that far. They're 8.5x11", and the pair of them adds up to an inch and a half thick.

Re: Artist of HP Manuals Message #5 Posted by David Ramsey on 28 May 2011, 8:30 p.m., in response to message #4 by Garth Wilson I have an 85 and would pay you handsomely for the manuals.

Re: Artist of HP Manuals Message #6 Posted by Garth Wilson on 28 May 2011, 9:55 p.m., in response to message #5 by David Ramsey My email address is wilsonmineszdslextremezcom (replace the z's with @ and . ) I should have put it in my post above.

Nostalgia Message #7 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 28 May 2011, 4:34 p.m., in response to message #2 by Glenn Shields Quote: Not to sound impertinent, but isn't that the main purpose of this forum, rather than so much "repurposing" and whatnot? I think I know what you mean. ;-) For me, the repurposing project I'm involved in has more nostalgia in it than some of the other ongoing discussions here. Let me explain. My professional career started in the early eighties as a programmer of machines with very limited resources, micro controller based machine controls. We were facing very similar problems I'm dealing with in my current project here. The saying "every little bit counts" had to be taken literally then as it is now. Todays programming paradigms deal with dynamic memory in the gigabyte range and processor power measured in gigaflops. Nothing of this is true for the machine I'm dealing with at the moment. For me, it's a time machine, taking me back some thirty years of my life. Edited: 28 May 2011, 4:35 p.m.

Re: Nostalgia Message #8 Posted by Glenn Shields on 28 May 2011, 5:13 p.m., in response to message #7 by Marcus von Cube, Germany Wow, thanks to all for the quick response, and nostalgia is the word I was looking for. Didn't mean to "dis" anyone's current work, I just didn't want this post to fall into the archives before getting a response, but maybe now we can wait for someone intimately connected with HP (if such a person is still around) knows about the artist, but in the meantime thanks for sharing insight into what is going on now. cheers, Glenn

Re: Nostalgia Message #9 Posted by Katie Wasserman on 28 May 2011, 7:13 p.m., in response to message #8 by Glenn Shields The Spice series (31e,32e,33e/c,34c,37e and 38e/c) manuals all have several of these little sketches. I too can't find any reference to the artist, but then again I don't recall ever seeing an individual credited with anything in an HP calculator manual.

Re: Nostalgia Message #10 Posted by hpnut on 28 May 2011, 9:07 p.m., in response to message #9 by Katie Wasserman Quote: The Spice series (31e,32e,33e/c,34c,37e and 38e/c) manuals all have several of these little sketches. I too can't find any reference to the artist, but then again I don't recall ever seeing an individual credited with anything in an HP calculator manual. Katie, that's not correct, strictly speaking. I have an HP 38G User's Guide that acknowledges "members of the Education Advisory Committee (list of names follows) for their assistance in the development of this product." I also recall seeing credits for someone who pioneered the applications in the Advanced Pac for the HP 41 module (something to do with the top row interface). let me check if I have the Advanced Pac manual. sad but true, I have not seen any credits for the artist(s?), perhaps he/she was/were outsourced. hpnut in Malaysia Edited: 28 May 2011, 10:04 p.m.

Re: Nostalgia Message #11 Posted by Walter B on 29 May 2011, 2:07 a.m., in response to message #10 by hpnut IIRC, rules for naming artists (incl. photographers) in the last century weren't as they are today. Today you find the picture sources in almost every printed matter, then there were a lot of anonymous contributors. Walter

Re: Nostalgia Message #12 Posted by exschr on 29 May 2011, 7:50 a.m., in response to message #7 by Marcus von Cube, Germany Quote: Todays programming paradigms deal with dynamic memory in the gigabyte range and processor power measured in gigaflops. Nothing of this is true for the machine I'm dealing with at the moment. For me, it's a time machine, taking me back some thirty years of my life. That's just so true, I long for the 8- and 16-bit processors of that time. PIC-Programming with the smaller PIC's (not the DSP-ones) gives me the same kind of feeling about it, it's just pure fun without this gigantic overhead of todays SW-development techniques (not to mention OOP!) Not to be misunderstood, this new approach has it's advantages too, but sometimes I can't resist the feeling that "too much is just too much" Excuse me the rephrasing of your words like this: "It gives me another thirty years of my life (almost :-)" Cheers Roger

Re: Artist of HP Manuals Message #13 Posted by Ronald Williams on 29 May 2011, 10:13 p.m., in response to message #1 by Csaba Tizedes (Hungary) FYI - I checked my old hp documentation and here is what I discovered. There was no graphic art in the HP-35 manual. On the cover of the HP-67 / HP-97 User's Library Solutions the artist signed his work as Ron Henry. Other renderings in the User Manual, Standard Pac and Civil Engineering Pac 1 are anonymous but share a similar Ron Henry style. HP gave credit to NASA, AMES Research Center for the Lunar Module photo on page 122 of the User Manual. Hope you find that useful.

Re: Artist of HP Manuals Message #14 Posted by hpnut on 30 May 2011, 3:12 a.m., in response to message #13 by Ronald Williams Thanks for the info, Ronald. I am not sure if this is the same Ron Henry of HP manual, http://offthewallgj.com/Off_The_Wall/Ron_Henry.html I have written an email to seek confirmation.

Re: Artist of HP Manuals Message #15 Posted by Ronald Williams on 30 May 2011, 9:51 a.m., in response to message #14 by hpnut I also found that link but did not think it was the same artist because the styles are so different. Good luck.

Re: Artist of HP Manuals Message #16 Posted by Ren on 31 May 2011, 12:57 p.m., in response to message #15 by Ronald Williams Quote: I also found that link but did not think it was the same artist because the styles are so different. Good luck. But if you look closely at one of the paintings, I'll bet that bulge in the cowboy's shirt pocket is an HP-35 B^) Seriously, it _could_ be the same artist, the style of art on the old manuals would not feed an artist today, but Western Art is popular. Ren dona nobis pacem

Re: Artist of HP Manuals Message #17 Posted by Csaba Tizedes (Hungary) on 2 June 2011, 4:45 a.m., in response to message #14 by hpnut Err..., I think the drawing style is not quite similar to the illustrations in the HP manuals, but maybe it was changed by time...

Re: Artist of HP Manuals Message #18 Posted by Csaba Tizedes (Hungary) on 2 June 2011, 4:41 a.m., in response to message #13 by Ronald Williams Thank you! I will check my HP docs too, I hope I'll find some similar signings.

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