While not a substitute for the whole review that will come in a few days, I think that there is another candidate for repurposing - with a far better keyboard than the 20b!
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #2 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 16 Apr 2011, 3:17 p.m., in response to message #1 by Jose Gonzalez Divasson
Thanks for the review. Now that I'm in the repurposing business, I would love to see a review of the ongoing wp34s project.
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #3 Posted by svisvanatha on 16 Apr 2011, 3:30 p.m., in response to message #2 by Marcus von Cube, Germany
I was thinking of devoting a post on my blog to the very same...
And in terms of repurposing projects - I believe that most of the elements are in place to create a '15c+' using the new 12c+ as the hardware, and reusing functions from the wp34s. Matrix operations to mimic the 15c's would need to be developed though.
<hides under desk>
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #4 Posted by Paul Dale on 17 Apr 2011, 4:02 a.m., in response to message #3 by svisvanatha
The screen makes it not worthwhile.
- Pauli
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #5 Posted by Tim Wessman on 16 Apr 2011, 5:23 p.m., in response to message #1 by Jose Gonzalez Divasson
FYI - There are no other connectors of interest inside (JTAG), nor a place for a crystal or any additions. The circuit board is quite bare compared to the 20/30b.
TW
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #6 Posted by Jim Yohe on 16 Apr 2011, 7:09 p.m., in response to message #5 by Tim Wessman
Keep it simple ... keep it cheap. ;-)
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #7 Posted by Katie Wasserman on 16 Apr 2011, 10:43 p.m., in response to message #5 by Tim Wessman
Yep, not much in there except for test points, lots of shorted resistor locations and open capacitor locations. Most of the test points seem to be the keyboard scan lines, but not all of them.
-Katie
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #8 Posted by Raymond Del Tondo on 17 Apr 2011, 6:21 a.m., in response to message #7 by Katie Wasserman
So what are the six points named ERASE1,GND1,NRSTB1,DRX01,DTX01,VCC1 for? I thought those were the wanted pins?
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #9 Posted by Paul Dale on 17 Apr 2011, 6:32 a.m., in response to message #8 by Raymond Del Tondo
They'll be the serial programming pins.
- Pauli
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #10 Posted by Eddie W. Shore on 16 Apr 2011, 7:24 p.m., in response to message #1 by Jose Gonzalez Divasson
From the pictures, it looks like to be a solid machine.
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #11 Posted by hpnut on 16 Apr 2011, 10:37 p.m., in response to message #1 by Jose Gonzalez Divasson
Please, please...I am praying this has RPN! has it?
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #12 Posted by gene wright on 16 Apr 2011, 10:38 p.m., in response to message #11 by hpnut
No, algebraic or chain mode only.
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #13 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 17 Apr 2011, 3:59 a.m., in response to message #12 by gene wright
At least it adds algebraic mode to the 10b feature set.
Edited: 17 Apr 2011, 3:59 a.m.
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #14 Posted by Tim Wessman on 16 Apr 2011, 10:43 p.m., in response to message #11 by hpnut
We tried hard to put it in (even as a hidden mode or something), but I can tell you that there was a lot of research done with various professors and real estate people (the main target for this machine) and it was unanimous that even if it was well hidden they didn't want it in there. . .
Too much concern about possibility of messing things up for students and test takers. Yeah, I think it is dumb too but the target research was clear.
TW
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #15 Posted by DeboT on 17 Apr 2011, 9:10 a.m., in response to message #14 by Tim Wessman
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...but the target research was clear.
To recall something something that I think most here already know:
From HP's own website, see the Fun Fact on this page. (I know this is on the Museum site too, but I like to remind manufacturers what's on their own website :-)
Without which we may never have been here at all! Thanks Bill :-)
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #16 Posted by Jim Yohe on 17 Apr 2011, 12:13 p.m., in response to message #15 by DeboT
Yes we would need mighty large pockets to carry a "calculator be the size of a typewriter or adding machine" had marketing had their way. ;-)
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #17 Posted by Palmer O. Hanson, Jr. on 18 Apr 2011, 9:56 p.m., in response to message #15 by DeboT
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Without which we may never have been here at all! Thanks Bill :-)
There already were some pocket sized four-bangers. Sooner or later some manufacturer was going to build a pocket sized scientific calculator. H-P's good fortune was that they built the first one, even though everyone knows that it took a really big pocket to hold an HP-35.
Re: HP 10bII+ first impressions Message #18 Posted by Eddie W. Shore on 19 Apr 2011, 1:37 a.m., in response to message #1 by Jose Gonzalez Divasson
Here are my first impressions of the 10bii+. I plan to have a full review of the 10bii+ in a few days.
Go back to the main exhibit hall