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OT: new emulator Message #1 Posted by Olivier De Smet on 9 Feb 2011, 9:34 a.m. Not really off topics : it's about old HP 'computers' I just made a first public release of an emulator for HP 9816 and 9836A (9000 serie 200) With help from Tony Duel (schematics) and Jon Johnston (rom dump and docs) I managed to have a somewhat usable system, try it if you miss the good old RMB Web site Olivier

Re: OT: new emulator Message #2 Posted by Jerry Raia on 9 Feb 2011, 12:02 p.m., in response to message #1 by Olivier De Smet This is fantastic! Thank you!

Re: OT: new emulator Message #3 Posted by Israel Otero on 9 Feb 2011, 2:47 p.m., in response to message #1 by Olivier De Smet Hi folks, Recently I was wondering if there is a such thing as a HP9100 emulator. After searching for a while, the result was a pleasant surprise because I did find it and able to install it on my Linux machine. Quite a nice implementation. It is made for Debian Linux and was tailor made for me. The link: http://hp9100a.sourceforge.net/ Have a nice evening to all of you.

Re: OT: new emulator Message #4 Posted by Jerry Raia on 10 Feb 2011, 1:16 p.m., in response to message #1 by Olivier De Smet There are some issues with this but it is a great start.

Re: OT: new emulator Message #5 Posted by Olivier De Smet on 10 Feb 2011, 3:17 p.m., in response to message #4 by Jerry Raia Could you give some details about the issues ? Btw I put a new version today ... Olivier

Re: OT: new emulator Message #6 Posted by Steve Perkins on 10 Feb 2011, 3:58 p.m., in response to message #5 by Olivier De Smet This looks like an exciting product! The update was helpful. I need a bit more time to explore the possibilities. I'm not familiar with the system emulated (yet). You've done a great job as far as I can tell. One suggestion would be to include an example of what disk images to use with what disk type to get started with something. It's great to have so many powerful options, but it can be a bit confusing to have so many choices for the beginner like me. Thanks for sharing this great work with us!

Re: OT: new emulator Message #7 Posted by Jerry Raia on 10 Feb 2011, 5:12 p.m., in response to message #5 by Olivier De Smet Happy to :) I did get the new version. So far the main thing is the save function. If I do a save to .E98x6 file nothing is really saved. For example the processor speed reverts to slow and the emulator boots looking for a system even though I have saved it with a system and the MAX processor speed. Then if I delete the .E98x6 file everytime I restart the emulator I get an error that the file is missing. So now it wont start in its original clean state without an error. I cannot find a way to clear that error. I'm running the emulator on Windows 7.

Re: OT: new emulator Message #8 Posted by Olivier De Smet on 11 Feb 2011, 3:38 a.m., in response to message #7 by Jerry Raia My fault, Only save for disc is working. I'll try for the system soon. To revert to a clean install you need to delete all registry entry under \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HP98x6 with regedit I don't activate system save (& load) because each time I change some stuff in the code, it can lead to change of the save system format, sorry Olivier

Re: OT: new emulator Message #9 Posted by Jerry Raia on 11 Feb 2011, 12:56 p.m., in response to message #8 by Olivier De Smet Thanks for the info :) Your work has brought a great old machine back to life on my desktop. Keep us updated on your progress :)

Re: OT: new emulator Message #10 Posted by Olivier De Smet on 12 Feb 2011, 5:32 p.m., in response to message #9 by Jerry Raia New release with more robust internal and amigo disc. Save and load of system now activated happy rmb and pascal ... Olivier

Re: OT: new emulator Message #11 Posted by Jerry Raia on 12 Feb 2011, 7:01 p.m., in response to message #10 by Olivier De Smet Just got the latest. Keep it up! The save does work now but for some reason the debug window starts up even though I deselected the the check box in settings, as if that is not being saved. Nice work though :)

Re: OT: new emulator Message #12 Posted by Steve Perkins on 14 Feb 2011, 6:55 p.m., in response to message #10 by Olivier De Smet I've had a bit more time to try this. It's really cool! I choose a memory size of 1024k and a KML file. I used the 9122 disk type on 700.0.x, then after starting I loaded the bas5boot.bin file in the 700,0 drive. Like magic the system booted to basic. It's been fun experimenting with simple programs. Thanks for all your had work. You've done (and are doing) a great job!

Re: OT: new emulator Message #13 Posted by Olivier De Smet on 24 Feb 2011, 5:56 a.m., in response to message #4 by Jerry Raia New release today with working 9816A, 9836A, 9836C and 9837H models Happy rmb and pascal :)

Re: OT: new emulator Message #14 Posted by Jerry Raia on 24 Feb 2011, 11:30 a.m., in response to message #13 by Olivier De Smet Excellent!

Re: OT: new emulator Message #15 Posted by Steve Perkins on 25 Feb 2011, 4:09 p.m., in response to message #13 by Olivier De Smet Very nice. I appreciate your work on this a lot!

Re: OT: new emulator Message #16 Posted by Torsten on 27 Feb 2011, 3:46 a.m., in response to message #13 by Olivier De Smet The new version still uses 100% of my (single core) CPU. On a multi-core system at work it runs at full usage (100%) of one (virtual) core.

Re: OT: new emulator Message #17 Posted by Olivier De Smet on 27 Feb 2011, 1:56 p.m., in response to message #16 by Torsten It uses 100% of one core only at max speed. At x1, it uses around 5% for a 2.4 GHz core 2 Duo. At max, it takes 100% and is equivalent as a x7 speed up. Edited: 27 Feb 2011, 1:56 p.m.

Re: OT: new emulator Message #18 Posted by Jerry Raia on 4 Mar 2011, 8:18 p.m., in response to message #13 by Olivier De Smet This last update on the 27th really fixed that "save" function! Thanks! :)

Re: OT: new emulator Message #19 Posted by Olivier De Smet on 5 Mar 2011, 11:18 a.m., in response to message #18 by Jerry Raia Btw, I just put a zip with source at my site. Olivier

Re: OT: new emulator Message #20 Posted by Jerry Raia on 6 Mar 2011, 12:11 p.m., in response to message #19 by Olivier De Smet Just grabbed it! Thanks :)

Re: OT: new emulator Message #21 Posted by Torsten on 17 Feb 2011, 4:10 p.m., in response to message #1 by Olivier De Smet In 1987 and 1988 I worked for Osram in Munich as a student trainee and used an 9836 to automate a test stand. Working with this machine was a pure joy and I never forgot it. The emulator brings back the memories. Thank's a lot for this! Does anyone have manuals for the machine or the software? Without them it is really dificult to explore the emulator.

Re: OT: new emulator Message #22 Posted by Olivier De Smet on 18 Feb 2011, 2:48 p.m., in response to message #21 by Torsten You can find many manuals and softwares at www.hpmuseum.net Be carefull to use a software on a supported hardware. Use '200Series_PeripheralsSupportMatrix_16pages_Dec89' pdf for that. Olivier

Re: OT: new emulator Message #23 Posted by Torsten on 24 Feb 2011, 12:50 p.m., in response to message #22 by Olivier De Smet The HP98x6 series emulator eats up my (single core) CPU. On a multi-core system at work it runs at full capacity (100%) of one (virtual) core. What can I do?

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