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Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #1 Posted by Geir Isene on 15 Nov 2010, 12:57 p.m. I mailed Bobby and he answered; Apparently there is no English manual. Anyone care to translate the mains of it? If I knew German, I would do it myself and then publish it, but unfortunately I took four years of French in school instead (and was left with only one rude French sentence that I never got to use :(

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #2 Posted by Walter B on 15 Nov 2010, 3:07 p.m., in response to message #1 by Geir Isene After I participated considerably in hijacking your last thread in this matter, I think it's adequate offering you some translation work. Hope it won't be tenths of pages though ;)

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #3 Posted by Geir Isene on 15 Nov 2010, 5:20 p.m., in response to message #2 by Walter B Although it was one hell of a good hijack, I'll take you up on the offer. Send me an e-mail to g@isene.com, and I will send you a copy of the manual for translation. Just translate what you believe is important in order for me to actually use the module. And: Thank you very much. Now let the hijacking begin :)

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #4 Posted by Walter B on 16 Nov 2010, 2:03 a.m., in response to message #3 by Geir Isene Geir, Quote: Although it was one hell of a good hijack, ... Thank you. I'll try hard to make a hijack worth two hells next time ;) Anyway, you've got mail.

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #5 Posted by Martin Pinckney on 15 Nov 2010, 5:59 p.m., in response to message #2 by Walter B Quote: Now let the hijacking begin :) OK, here goes: Quote: Hope it won't be tenths of pages though ;) Walter, if it's only a few tenths, it should not take long at all! OK, OK, I am really just teasing you! No offense intended!

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #6 Posted by Walter B on 16 Nov 2010, 1:56 a.m., in response to message #5 by Martin Pinckney Martin, I can take that :) and after all it's "only" 41 pages in that language with nonsensical features (according to a few forumers writing another one, whichs ambiguities I'm exploiting). Just for curiosity: which language(s) can you offer translationwise? ;) Edited: 16 Nov 2010, 5:12 a.m.

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #7 Posted by Martin Pinckney on 17 Nov 2010, 9:41 p.m., in response to message #6 by Walter B Quote: Just for curiosity: which language(s) can you offer translationwise? ;) I can translate reasonably well from Gullah to English, but not necessarily vice versa.

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #8 Posted by Mike (Stgt) on 16 Nov 2010, 4:57 a.m., in response to message #1 by Geir Isene Do not use the HP-41 Bobby Schenk Yacht Module for serious tasks. The navigator who once sold me this module told me that it has errors (beim Koppeln). Also I was never able to find the error I would like to warn you before something goes wrong. IMHO the modue is a nice toy. It is quite useful to do some theory at home. But in practice in rogh conditions I put the HP-41 back to a secure place and used traditional technique (Karte und Besteck): map, ruler etc. The module is protected. After removing the protection I had the impression that the programming was done in an other language and then migrated to the HP-41 as the code is not optimized for it. My 0.02$ Ciao.....Mike

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #9 Posted by Geir Isene on 16 Nov 2010, 5:27 a.m., in response to message #8 by Mike (Stgt) I will ask Bobby about this.

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #10 Posted by Geir Isene on 16 Nov 2010, 6:13 a.m., in response to message #9 by Geir Isene Bobby is darn quick. He says the module was indeed programmed in FOCAL by him, it sold in a few thousands and never was any bug reported. He also sailed with this module from Tahiti round Cape Horn and then to the med (with only one stop) and relied 100% daily on this module. I'd say that's pretty serious undertaking.

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #11 Posted by Mike (Stgt) on 16 Nov 2010, 12:10 p.m., in response to message #10 by Geir Isene Primo: As I sayed, I was told about a bug from the seller who was navigator on a cargo vessel. Alas I was never able to figure out the error in dead reckon. So my warning is somewhat vague. 2nd Primo: If Bobby did the programming in FOCAL on his own - well - he probably programmed it in an other language before, for a Sharp, or in BASIC. But before I get a legal dispute with a judge: this is just my impression. <VBG> Ciao.....Mike

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #12 Posted by Geir Isene on 16 Nov 2010, 2:48 p.m., in response to message #11 by Mike (Stgt) I am not going to attempt to beat Bobby's sailing feat. If the module was good enough for his sailing and he used it as his primary tool for that long trip, I would also trust it. And, if there is no verifiable bug, it may well have been a misunderstanding on your sellers part instead.

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #13 Posted by Walter B on 16 Nov 2010, 3:11 p.m., in response to message #12 by Geir Isene On page 67 of the German manual, users finding an error in said module are requested to report it to the editor. So there's some probability that errors - if existing - were reported. OTOH, if nothing was ever reported, then probably no error was found - Bobby should know.

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #14 Posted by Martin Pinckney on 16 Nov 2010, 8:45 a.m., in response to message #8 by Mike (Stgt) Quote: Do not use the HP-41 Bobby Schenk Yacht Module for serious tasks. The navigator who once sold me this module told me that it has errors ... I would like to warn you before something goes wrong. After over 100 posts and a major (albeit fun) hijack, you tell us this NOW? {:-)

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #15 Posted by Walter B on 16 Nov 2010, 8:56 a.m., in response to message #14 by Martin Pinckney Quote: Posted by Martin Pinckney on 16 Nov 2010, 8:45 a.m. Sorry, you're 2.5h late with this reaction. Read Geir's post above. BTW, how many users of BSYM do we have here?

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #16 Posted by Martin Pinckney on 16 Nov 2010, 9:40 a.m., in response to message #15 by Walter B Quote: Sorry, you're 2.5h late with this reaction. Walter, I have often been accused of reacting late... But in this case, I knew I was late, I just thought there was some humor in the sequence of events that should be pointed out anyway...

Re: Bobby Schenk Yacht Module; Answer from Bobby himself Message #17 Posted by Ángel Martin on 17 Nov 2010, 9:57 a.m., in response to message #16 by Martin Pinckney Quote: I just thought there was some humor in the sequence of events that should be pointed out anyway... and sure it was - thanks. Looks like there's some susceptibility in the air... which BTW translates into Spanish as "susceptibilidad" - such an easy tonge! Keep up the spirit! Edited: 17 Nov 2010, 9:57 a.m.

Sequence of events Message #18 Posted by Walter B on 17 Nov 2010, 11:28 a.m., in response to message #17 by Ángel Martin Would have been really super great if posted between 4:57 and 6:13 a.m., but after that the fun contained in that post decreased exponentially IMO. I won't quote Mikhail Gorbatchov, however, ... Only my 20m€, of course. Edited: 17 Nov 2010, 11:30 a.m.

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