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Repaired 41C
Message #1 Posted by ClausB on 13 Mar 2010, 8:09 a.m.

I repaired my 41C's flex circuit which was damaged by corrosion. In testing, I found something odd. With no other modules in place, the Math Pac worked in port 1 but not in port 2. The display would come on but then no response to any key, including power. The repair is on the port 1/3 side of the flex circuit, not the port 2/4 side.

However, with a 4X RAM in port 1, the Math Pac works in port 2. I read that the ROM has to come after the RAM, but why would the ROM not work without the RAM?

(Edited: they're ports, not slots. D'oh!)

Edited: 13 Mar 2010, 11:08 p.m. after one or more responses were posted

      
Re: Repaired 41C
Message #2 Posted by Jeff Kearns on 13 Mar 2010, 8:41 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by ClausB

I believe you are simply not allowed to leave slot 1 empty. Although the instructions indicate that you can leave 'gaps' e.g. memory module in port 1 and application module in port 3 or 4 with port 2 empty etc., you may have to use port 1 first in either case.

            
Re: Repaired 41C
Message #3 Posted by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) on 13 Mar 2010, 8:58 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by Jeff Kearns

The only requirement is to fill lower ports with RAM modules (if present). How could you use Card reader (and associated ROM) without additional RAM modules otherwise?
Since you mention corrosion check that you got rid of all of it

Greetings,
Massimo

Edited: 13 Mar 2010, 9:01 a.m.

                  
Re: Repaired 41C
Message #4 Posted by ClausB on 13 Mar 2010, 7:59 p.m.,
in response to message #3 by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy)

The only corrosion I found on the PCB was a bit on the gold contacts to the flex circuit, easily cleaned off. The flex circuit itself was badly corroded. The negative battery terminal was destroyed so I cleaned it and covered it with a metal strip that reaches up to the PCB contact. It is a bit thick so I covered the adjacent contacts with aluminum foil strips to ensure contact.

It seems to work except for the oddity noted above, but perhaps that is normal?

                        
Re: Repaired 41C
Message #5 Posted by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) on 14 Mar 2010, 7:40 a.m.,
in response to message #4 by ClausB

May I suggest that you try to contact Diego Diaz (http://www.clonix41.org/Maintenance/IO_Block/IO_Block.htm) for a replacement, if available?

;)

Greetings,
Massimo

Edited: 14 Mar 2010, 7:40 a.m.

                              
Re: Repaired 41C
Message #6 Posted by ClausB on 15 Mar 2010, 6:14 p.m.,
in response to message #5 by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy)

That new flex circuit looks very nice but I recently put in new batteries (Radio Shack, 2 for $0.99) and now the Math Pac works in port 2 with or without RAM in port 1. Yay! The old batteries measured about 1.25 V each unloaded and there was no Lo Batt indicator, but they were 15 years old. They had been stored outside the calculator, after the corrosion damage had occurred with the previous set.

Edited: 15 Mar 2010, 6:20 p.m.


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