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30b can be ordered Message #1 Posted by Don Shepherd on 3 Mar 2010, 8:09 p.m. $58 bucks and free shipping. here

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #2 Posted by Allen on 3 Mar 2010, 10:35 p.m., in response to message #1 by Don Shepherd Nice! I recommend the folks here getting one!

Re: 30b can be ordered - in US only? :( Message #3 Posted by Walter B on 4 Mar 2010, 1:31 a.m., in response to message #1 by Don Shepherd ... at least not in Europe through HP's website d:-(

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #4 Posted by Paul Dale on 4 Mar 2010, 1:52 a.m., in response to message #1 by Don Shepherd Sigh :-( Having just be made redundant, I don't think I can spring for non-essentials like this just yet :-( - Pauli

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #5 Posted by Walter B on 4 Mar 2010, 4:26 p.m., in response to message #4 by Paul Dale Thanks to a note from a fellow forumer, it turned out the 30b will be sold in Germany from May on d:-). It's listed by a distributor for 49,95 Euros plus shipping - so much about currencies and fair trade d:-(. @Pauli, If it'll still be appropriate then, we'll think about some import to down under, declaring it as semi-finished product d;-). Until then, keep your head and spirit up. Good luck! Walter

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #6 Posted by John B. Smitherman on 4 Mar 2010, 4:35 p.m., in response to message #5 by Walter B Hi Walter. My guess is that it will sell for 50 dollars, 50 euros and 50 british pounds. :-( Regards, John

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #7 Posted by Jeff O. on 4 Mar 2010, 8:13 a.m., in response to message #1 by Don Shepherd It seems that you have to call to get free shipping. If you order on-line, a shipping charge gets added in the cart. Edited: 4 Mar 2010, 3:43 p.m.

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #8 Posted by Tim Wessman on 4 Mar 2010, 3:11 p.m., in response to message #1 by Don Shepherd Hello, Somehow, the price is messed up and they put in a request to fix it. The price on the hp website should be 49.99 and will be fixed within the next day or two. FYI TW

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #9 Posted by Peter A. Gebhardt on 4 Mar 2010, 5:54 p.m., in response to message #8 by Tim Wessman Tim, someone should correct "Black Sholes" to "Black–Scholes" in Specs too ;-) Best regards OT: Did you receive my email on the (Germany specific) 17bII+ issue?

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #10 Posted by Tim Wessman on 4 Mar 2010, 6:50 p.m., in response to message #9 by Peter A. Gebhardt Sheesh. I've sent back changes to fix that page two different times now (both times had that mistake corrected). Seems like they just glance at it and make the change if they happen to notice a difference. Maybe third time's a charm. TW

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #11 Posted by Bruce Bergman on 5 Mar 2010, 1:00 a.m., in response to message #8 by Tim Wessman What about those of us who bought it at the $59 price and had already completed our order yesterday? (sigh)

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #12 Posted by Tim Wessman on 5 Mar 2010, 10:32 a.m., in response to message #11 by Bruce Bergman Send me an email and I will send you to the correct person who can help. TW

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #13 Posted by Tom Mathes on 5 Mar 2010, 11:06 a.m., in response to message #1 by Don Shepherd What does "rotate and click" keys in the description mean?

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #14 Posted by Bruce Bergman on 5 Mar 2010, 10:15 p.m., in response to message #13 by Tom Mathes In non-technical terms, it means the keyboard is light years better than the 20b. Maybe not as good as the classic calcs, but it's a solid, positive tactile feel. In addition, there are no problems with double-presses, missed keystrokes or anything of that sort. Translation: buy it, you'll love it. :-) bruce Edited: 5 Mar 2010, 10:16 p.m.

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #15 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 6 Mar 2010, 7:52 a.m., in response to message #13 by Tom Mathes I guess the rotation of a key by a few degrees around the axis formed by the two hinges is meant with 'rotate'. I heard this term the first time with the 30b. 'click' might be the obvious.

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #16 Posted by Walter B on 6 Mar 2010, 8:31 a.m., in response to message #13 by Tom Mathes Nothing more than what HP's calculator keys used to do since the HP35 until the HP48GX inclusively. So, the wheel wasn't reinvented but relabeled - something US-American marketeers can do best d;-)

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #17 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 6 Mar 2010, 8:58 a.m., in response to message #16 by Walter B Hi Walter! Is it different for the 50g and 35s? Thomas

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #18 Posted by Tim Wessman on 6 Mar 2010, 10:06 a.m., in response to message #17 by Thomas Radtke Not really. The domes are different between them slightly, but the underlying methodology is identical. This was a late printing and had a few issues so ignore those. Neither cyrille nor I have seen the shipping units. For those wondering, all the text was tweaked from the 20b. Things were centered, aligned, enlarged (numbers, arrows, backspace) and spaced much better. Anything with CAPITAL spelling is a direct command (except where it wouldn't make sense - IRR vs Irr), lowercase signifies a menu. The fonts are Luz Sans and Gentium (as opposed to TNR on the 20 - blech). TW Edited: 6 Mar 2010, 10:09 a.m.

Re: 30b can be ordered Message #19 Posted by Walter B on 6 Mar 2010, 10:55 a.m., in response to message #18 by Tim Wessman FWIW, this one shot method is used since the Pioneers. Earlier models (Voyagers and before) had individual keys. The 35S uses a similar approach. No idea about the 50G, however.

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