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TI calculator collection Message #1 Posted by Michael Meyer on 17 Nov 2009, 4:28 p.m. Wannabe!!! (For non-English speakers: wan·na·be also wan·na·bee (wn-b, wôn-) Informal n. 1. One who aspires to a role or position. 2. One who imitates the behavior, customs, or dress of an admired person or group. 3. A product designed to imitate the qualities or characteristics of something. adj. Wishing or aspiring to be; would-be. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125832581224549493.html#mod=todays_us_page_one

Re: TI calculator collection (Hacking) Message #2 Posted by Paul Brogger on 18 Nov 2009, 12:06 p.m., in response to message #1 by Michael Meyer The article's subject -- TI's angst over teenage hackers "repurposing" their TI-83's -- gives a good indication of how capable and well-supported is that platform for customization. It would be great if HP supported enhancement of the HP-10bII (is that the new one with the reprogramming capability?) as well as TI has the TI-83/84. (Excepting TI's apps signature requirements, that is.) Heck, I haven't paid any attention of late -- maybe HP does support development well?

Re: TI calculator collection (Hacking) Message #3 Posted by Tim Wessman on 18 Nov 2009, 12:33 p.m., in response to message #2 by Paul Brogger I think you mean the 20b. You can download a toolchain, source, compiler and documentation for creating your own system on the 20b. http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=215348&prodSeriesId=3732534&prodNameId=3732535&swEnvOID=54&swLang=8&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=ca-62901-2 TW

Re: TI calculator collection (apology) Message #4 Posted by Michael Meyer on 18 Nov 2009, 2:21 p.m., in response to message #3 by Tim Wessman Sorry... I hadn't even read the article when I posted the link... my bad. I was referring to a modern TI calculator collection as compared to a "real" collection of calculators. I didn't mean to disparage their repurposing efforts. BTW: Life is good today. Finally added an HP-10 to my collection.

Re: TI calculator collection (apology) Message #5 Posted by bill platt on 18 Nov 2009, 5:52 p.m., in response to message #4 by Michael Meyer No apology required. It was interesting and on topic anyway! But where does this "my bad" expression come from, anyway? I see that more and more and it isn't coming from non-native writers--it seems to be a "thing."

Re: TI calculator collection (apology) Message #6 Posted by Don Shepherd on 18 Nov 2009, 6:01 p.m., in response to message #5 by bill platt Bill, that's been around for several years now. It's short for "am I bad!". One uses it after one has goofed up somehow. I personally don't like it, but many people use it.

Re: TI calculator collection (apology) Message #7 Posted by DavidShenk on 18 Nov 2009, 6:32 p.m., in response to message #5 by bill platt Apparently, the phrase has been around a while, but became popularized in the 1995 movie Clueless with Alicia Silverstone.

I must be clueless Message #8 Posted by bill platt on 18 Nov 2009, 6:43 p.m., in response to message #7 by DavidShenk I don't think I've seen that movie.... Silverstone...is she the one from "Married with Children?" You don't have to answer. I am truly clueless:-)

Re: I must be clueless Message #9 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) on 18 Nov 2009, 7:24 p.m., in response to message #8 by bill platt Hi, Bill; The actress from Married with Children may be Applegate; Silverstone (Alicia) is probably well remembered from this movie or this other one. Cheers. Luiz (Brazil) Edited: 18 Nov 2009, 7:25 p.m.

Re: I must be clueless Message #10 Posted by bill platt on 18 Nov 2009, 9:56 p.m., in response to message #9 by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) APPLE GATE, SILVER STONE. No wonder I got 'em confused. They are both compounds of good stuff with ordinary stuff: Apple of mine eye Silver bells...

Re: I must be clueless Message #11 Posted by Don Shepherd on 18 Nov 2009, 7:57 p.m., in response to message #8 by bill platt Bill, anyone over the age of 50 is clueless these days. If you consider the first name Carly, who do you think of? Me, it's Carly Simon. My tutor students, it's "iCarly." This forum, I guess it's Ms. Fiorina.

Re: I must be clueless Message #12 Posted by Michael Meyer on 18 Nov 2009, 8:58 p.m., in response to message #11 by Don Shepherd Can you tell I have an 18-year-old daughter? I've "learned" all sorts of expressions. Last weekend, I was visiting my son for the KU/Nebraska (American) football game. I asked some of his friends what they call students who work extra hard and even study ahead. They were unaware of any term for them! "Nerd" was the best they could do. In "my day", those students were called "gunners". It was a very useful description, since I was competing with pre-med, and then other medical students. Sometimes, even I was a "gunner"....

Re: I must be clueless Message #13 Posted by Mike Morrow on 18 Nov 2009, 9:11 p.m., in response to message #12 by Michael Meyer I've never heard "gunner" used with that meaning. I was an EE undergrad from 1970 to 74, and an EE grad student in 1980. Maybe I predate that, or maybe it never was used at Georgia Tech.

Re: I must be clueless Message #14 Posted by bill platt on 18 Nov 2009, 9:54 p.m., in response to message #13 by Mike Morrow I've heard "gunner" for that. And the participial phrase, "he's gunning for Summa Cum Laude" or such.

Re: I must be clueless Message #15 Posted by Kiyoshi Akima on 19 Nov 2009, 4:00 p.m., in response to message #13 by Mike Morrow When I was working with EEs they tended to divide themselves into two camps: analog or digital. Except for some of the older ones, who considered themselves either "Wave Heads" or "60-cycle Boys." And the latter was not a sexist term, since there were almost no female engineers back then. One of the wave heads used to go around saying "All you need to be a digital engineer is two toes." I could never quite get him to understand that you only need one... toe.

Re: I must be clueless Message #16 Posted by Palmer O. Hanson, Jr. on 20 Nov 2009, 12:44 a.m., in response to message #15 by Kiyoshi Akima Quote: When I was working with EEs they tended to divide themselves into two camps: analog or digital. Except for some of the older ones, who considered themselves either "Wave Heads" or "60-cycle Boys." And the latter was not a sexist term, since there were almost no female engineers back then.. I was an AeroE working with both analog and digital EE's. I grouped them all together as "twidgets".

Re: I must be clueless Message #17 Posted by Don Shepherd on 18 Nov 2009, 9:43 p.m., in response to message #12 by Michael Meyer Americans seem to go through phases where we seize upon certain words and use them to death. Two current examples: awesome and sweet.

Re: I must be clueless Message #18 Posted by Martin Pinckney on 18 Nov 2009, 10:01 p.m., in response to message #17 by Don Shepherd And usually what is being thusly described is neither truly awesome nor literally sweet.

Re: I must be clueless Message #19 Posted by Don Shepherd on 18 Nov 2009, 10:13 p.m., in response to message #18 by Martin Pinckney Right! Of course, it's a generational thing. In my day, things were "far out" and "groovy." I'm sure my parents felt the same way about those words as I feel about awesome and sweet!

Re: I must be clueless Message #20 Posted by Mike Morrow on 18 Nov 2009, 10:26 p.m., in response to message #19 by Don Shepherd I hate "kewl".

Re: I must be clueless Message #21 Posted by Chuck on 18 Nov 2009, 11:09 p.m., in response to message #19 by Don Shepherd Growing up in the 60's and 70's everything was "far out". I hated it when mom would mock us and say "cool in". I can still hear her today. ;)

Re: I must be clueless Message #22 Posted by Doug on 7 Dec 2009, 8:19 a.m., in response to message #21 by Chuck odd, my mom thought "cool" was pretty cool in 1958, groovy was never cool but "surfs up" could survive for surfers and other idiots. We greesers in LA just did "runs" to parties at far reaches. difference between West and East coast kids.

Re: I must be clueless Message #23 Posted by Gerry Schultz on 7 Dec 2009, 4:43 p.m., in response to message #22 by Doug Am I missing something here? Did I drop into the middle of a conversation?

Re: I must be clueless Message #24 Posted by Eric Smith on 7 Dec 2009, 4:57 p.m., in response to message #23 by Gerry Schultz Cold are the hands of time that creep along relentlessly, destroying slowly but without pity that which yesterday was young. Alone our memories resist this disintegration and grow more lovely with the passing years. Edited: 7 Dec 2009, 4:58 p.m.

Re: I must be clueless Message #25 Posted by Doug on 7 Dec 2009, 11:37 p.m., in response to message #24 by Eric Smith Thanks Eric Your prose is magnamous, yet this was a continuation of another thread, guess Dave wants to headline me although i did not start this clueless thread or make up it's title, yet it is appropo.

Re: I must be clueless Message #26 Posted by Eric Smith on 8 Dec 2009, 12:23 a.m., in response to message #25 by Doug Alas, I can't take credit for the prose. It's from the 1942 film "Palm Beach Story", written and directed by Preston Sturges, and considered to by one of the best of the classic screwball comedies. The line is uttered by the "Wienie King" (Robert Dudley), who immediately follows it with "Hah! That's hard to say with false teeth!"

Re: I must be clueless Message #27 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) on 7 Dec 2009, 5:12 p.m., in response to message #23 by Gerry Schultz If you are a native English speaker and feels like this, guess what's going on our poor foreign, non-native English perceiving brain cells... Luiz (somewhere else)

Re: I must be clueless Message #28 Posted by Martin Pinckney on 7 Dec 2009, 5:13 p.m., in response to message #23 by Gerry Schultz Quote: Am I missing something here? Did I drop into the middle of a conversation? I think so.

Re: I must be clueless Message #29 Posted by John B. Smitherman on 7 Dec 2009, 5:23 p.m., in response to message #28 by Martin Pinckney I believe that this is the continuation of a previous thread: Link John

Re: I must be clueless Message #30 Posted by John Noble on 19 Nov 2009, 12:43 a.m., in response to message #17 by Don Shepherd "Awesome" migrated from SoCal surfer slang to the mainstream at least 25 years ago, along with "gnarly", "tubular" (via Valley-speak, if memory serves), and a bunch of other fun words ("egregious" was a favorite for some reason). If "awesome" is "new", you guys are older than I thought. :-)

Re: I must be clueless Message #31 Posted by Michael Meyer on 19 Nov 2009, 11:14 a.m., in response to message #30 by John Noble Most noticed last weekend while visiting college: "That's sick." (Meaning "great".) Was a bit confusing to me, but I get it now. "That calculator is sick!".... I don't think I'm going to use that one.

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