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I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #1 Posted by rebecca yurkanin on 13 Apr 2009, 1:58 a.m.

My father whom I sold several calculators on ebay last year has found another nice working HP-70 calculator. While I have sold many other models, I don't think we ever sold this model. It comes with an a/c adapter and all functions tried seem to work fine. My question is, this website claims $295 to $425 is its value. However I cannot find it anywhere, not even on eBay for sale? Is eBay the best place to sell it, and where would I get the most money out of it? I do not like selling on eBay, so is there an alternative and what really is the value? Does anyone know? thanks, Becky

      
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #2 Posted by Namir on 13 Apr 2009, 2:06 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by rebecca yurkanin

Becky,

I'd say eBay IS the best place to sell it. If you want to get the most money, you should set your personal dislikes aside. One cannot have it both ways--maximum cash for minimum effort.

Namir

      
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #3 Posted by Dan Grelinger on 13 Apr 2009, 1:39 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by rebecca yurkanin

If you want the maximum selling price, and can put up with all the fees (close to 12% when everything is factored in) then ebay is probably the best way to go.

An alternative is the classified ads on this site.

            
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #4 Posted by DaveJ on 13 Apr 2009, 5:26 p.m.,
in response to message #3 by Dan Grelinger

Quote:
If you want the maximum selling price, and can put up with all the fees (close to 12% when everything is factored in) then ebay is probably the best way to go.

It's nowhere near 12%.
On eBay Australia (other countries should be very similar I presume?), for say a $250 listed item there would be a $2.50 listing charge + $0.59 for the gallery photo (the only essential option).
Another $3.93+$4.81 final value fee if it sells for say $250.
Then 2.4% PayPal fee ($6) if they pay that way.
Total fees $17.83 or 7.1%, or only 4.7% if not using PayPal.

Yes it's high and outrageous, but not 12%

See:
http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/sell/fees.html

Only a fool would use Ebay's picture hosting service for bigger and extra photos and pay the extra fees, plenty of fee options exist.

Dave.

                  
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #5 Posted by Dan Grelinger on 13 Apr 2009, 10:05 p.m.,
in response to message #4 by DaveJ

Here is an example of what it costs to sell via Ebay and take PayPal.

$10 Initial Bid: $.55 Insertion Fee
$25 Winning Bid: $2.19 Final Value Fee
(Assume $10 in shipping cost)
Pay Pal Fee: $1.32

So, a total of $4.06 in fees for a $25 sale. If you whip out your trusty HP, you will see that the fees are over 16% of the sale! If the above transaction was to someone across the boarder, make that 17%!

So, you don't think the fees can be anywhere near 12%?

BUZZZZZZZ! Wrong Answer, try again.

Dan

                        
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #6 Posted by Michael de Estrada on 13 Apr 2009, 11:02 p.m.,
in response to message #5 by Dan Grelinger

Dan,

Ebay final sale fee rates for auctions decrease significantly for higher amounts. The rate is 8.75% for the first $25 and then decreses to 3.5% for the amount over $25 and up to $1000, where it decreases to 1.5%. So, yes, it really does not pay to sell anything for less than $25 unless you are a powerseller, but if your item sells for several hundred dollars or more, it makes a lot more sense.

Michael

                        
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #7 Posted by DaveJ on 13 Apr 2009, 11:20 p.m.,
in response to message #5 by Dan Grelinger

Quote:
Here is an example of what it costs to sell via Ebay and take PayPal.

$10 Initial Bid: $.55 Insertion Fee
$25 Winning Bid: $2.19 Final Value Fee
(Assume $10 in shipping cost)
Pay Pal Fee: $1.32

So, a total of $4.06 in fees for a $25 sale. If you whip out your trusty HP, you will see that the fees are over 16% of the sale! If the above transaction was to someone across the boarder, make that 17%!

So, you don't think the fees can be anywhere near 12%?

BUZZZZZZZ! Wrong Answer, try again.

Dan


The fees come down very significantly based on final value price.
Please re-do your calcs based on a realistic selling price for what we are talking about here and compare apples with apples.

I do believe you'll find it's closer to 5% (list+sale) for a $250 item, not including PayPal. So I stand by my comment that it's nowhere near 12% for the OP's calculator we are talking about here.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/fees.html

Only a fool or high volume power seller sells cheap things (like $25) on eBay where the fess are a killer.

On Ebay Australia, to sell a $250 item, the fess are as I quoted previously. 7.1% using PayPal, or only 4.7% without PayPal. This is slightly less than it is in the US.

Dave.

Edited: 13 Apr 2009, 11:24 p.m.

                              
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #8 Posted by Dan Grelinger on 14 Apr 2009, 4:15 p.m.,
in response to message #7 by DaveJ

Quote:
So I stand by my comment that it's nowhere near 12% for the OP's calculator we are talking about here.

You clarified your original comment in this post by adding qualifications. As qualified, it is accurate. Without qualifications, it is not as correct as you originally proposed.

Dan

                                    
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #9 Posted by DaveJ on 14 Apr 2009, 5:33 p.m.,
in response to message #8 by Dan Grelinger

Quote:
You clarified your original comment in this post by adding qualifications. As qualified, it is accurate. Without qualifications, it is not as correct as you originally proposed.

Ditto for both of your posts when you failed to mention the fees are only as high as you claim on low priced items, which clearly does not relate to the subject of this forum. Therefore your statements are inaccurate when it comes to selling almost any vintage HP calculator.

Dave.

                                          
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #10 Posted by Dan Grelinger on 15 Apr 2009, 5:30 p.m.,
in response to message #9 by DaveJ

Yes, I could have qualified my statement as well.

      
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #11 Posted by bennyboy6 on 13 Apr 2009, 5:00 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by rebecca yurkanin

Recently, a couple of HP-70's sold on ebay for $170- or so each.

Why not give classifieds on this site a free spin? Ask for $250 or more. If you don't get what you want on classifieds here, you can try ebay next.

You can use Paypal as payment for mutual protection.

Your only fees would thus be the Paypal fees, which vary based on whether you are Paypal premier/business or Paypal personal. Either way, it should be 3-5%. No need to pay ebay fees.

            
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #12 Posted by DaveJ on 13 Apr 2009, 5:29 p.m.,
in response to message #11 by bennyboy6

Quote:
Your only fees would thus be the Paypal fees, which vary based on whether you are Paypal premier/business or Paypal personal. Either way, it should be 3-5%. No need to pay ebay fees.

My PayPal personal Premier account (the free one) is only 2.4% + $0.30

Dave.

                  
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #13 Posted by bennyboy6 on 13 Apr 2009, 5:52 p.m.,
in response to message #12 by DaveJ

If you go to this page, assuming monthly sales under $3K,

For USA Paypal, it is 2.9% plus 30 cents, if you have a premier or business account. 4.9% plus 30 cents if you only have a personal account.

I assume you are Australian and I am guessing Paypal Australia has different rules.

Paypal fees page

and I neglected to mention that there is an additional 1% surcharge for cross border transactions (assuming you are in the USA and are accepting payment from someone outside the USA).

However, if you insist on non-credit cards, where the buyer has to get the money out of their bank and into Paypal before paying, you can avoid fees by acceptance into a personal account.

Edited: 13 Apr 2009, 5:56 p.m.

      
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #14 Posted by DaveJ on 13 Apr 2009, 5:31 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by rebecca yurkanin

I agree with the others, Ebay is the place to sell if you want the most money.
I don't know where you are based, but if you want the most bidders then you have to sell worldwide, and tick the box on the auction to make sure your listing is seen world wide.

The most important thing is BIG clear photos, and lots of them.

Dave.

      
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #15 Posted by Keith Midson on 16 Apr 2009, 2:29 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by rebecca yurkanin

Great, so now we've clarified ebay fees, when will we see this beast on ebay? You will generate a lot of interest (me included!). Regards, Keith

            
Re: I have an HP-70 vintage calculator for sale
Message #16 Posted by Michael de Estrada on 16 Apr 2009, 9:20 a.m.,
in response to message #15 by Keith Midson

Never. It sold through the MoHPC advertisements. No ebay fees! And no, I did not buy it.


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