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HP-16C - idiot trading it...to Intel 9650 ?? Message #1 Posted by V-PN on 7 Nov 2008, 3:58 p.m. [pre]The sad new is: I'm selling my calc :-( That's good news to you, bad sad to me. I want in exchange Intel 9650 Quodcore CPU. PayPal/money/check is not as easy. I need a new PC, but the CPU is still the missing peace. So my most valuable calc have to go... I also have in posession: HP-48SX HP-17BII HP-71B (AC working, battery compartment corrupted) and some 41-series modules: MATH I, MATH/STAT, FINANCIAL I, SECURITIES X, CLINICAL LAB X, SURVEYING I, STRESS STRESS could be a deal sweatener to the 1st induvidual to close the deal. It will certainly release a lot of stress (but give the pain of giving up the 16C) Those who contacted me a month ago have received a personal letter. All the broken 41CX are no longer in my possession AND I'm now ready to depart my beloved 16C I finally solved the money issue: just send me an Intel 9650 Quad CPU (tray, not boxed) in a padded envelope and I'll send the 16C the same way. Let's talk business...no where did I but my financial calc?

Re: HP-16C - idiot trading it...to Intel 9650 ?? Message #2 Posted by allen on 7 Nov 2008, 5:19 p.m., in response to message #1 by V-PN I understand your intentions. May I observe an extreme weakness of 'bartering-at-a-distance': There is no good channel for recourse if one party is not satisfied with the deal. (too many parties involved by introducing a second supplier, and second carrier in the mix who are neither a direct consumer nor a source of funding). Caution both parties in that regard for your trade.

Re: HP-16C - idiot trading it...to Intel 9650 ?? Message #3 Posted by Randy Sloyer on 7 Nov 2008, 6:36 p.m., in response to message #1 by V-PN Quote: just send me an Intel 9650 Quad CPU (tray, not boxed) in a padded envelope and I'll send the 16C the same way. That's a disaster waiting to happen. Over the years, I have received many padded envelopes that once contained a calculator... yes, the bag opened along the way and the calculator fell out. So, I never leave the Post Office without checking all parcels so that they can be stamped "Received Without Contents" and returned to the shipper. Boxes and tape are very cheap! Vintage HP's are not.

Re: HP-16C - idiot trading it...to Intel 9650 ?? Message #4 Posted by V-PN on 8 Nov 2008, 5:47 a.m., in response to message #3 by Randy Sloyer BUT people who have been posting regularly over the years will certainly send me the CPU - I can send the HP-16C 1st !!

Re: HP-16C - idiot trading it...to Intel 9650 ?? Message #5 Posted by V-PN on 8 Nov 2008, 12:52 p.m., in response to message #4 by V-PN NewEgg Q9650

Re: HP-16C - idiot trading it...to Intel 9650 ?? Message #6 Posted by Don Shepherd on 8 Nov 2008, 1:04 p.m., in response to message #5 by V-PN $540 for a 16C? Even Coburlin does not go that far.

Re: HP-16C - idiot trading it...to Intel 9650 ?? Message #7 Posted by V-PN on 8 Nov 2008, 2:22 p.m., in response to message #6 by Don Shepherd NewEgg Q9550 much cheaper! :-)

Re: HP-16C - idiot trading it...to Intel 9650 ?? Message #8 Posted by Walter B on 8 Nov 2008, 2:26 p.m., in response to message #7 by V-PN IMHO there remains a considerable difference between "cheaper" and "reasonable for a 16C" ...

Re: HP-16C - idiot trading it...to Intel 9650 ?? Message #9 Posted by V-PN on 8 Nov 2008, 5:03 p.m., in response to message #8 by Walter B [pre]I don't know the price level HP-42S without manual? cheaper or more expensive? How about HP-16C+manual + HP-71B(AC-power only)? Any suggestions? How much all together? 71B. 16C, 42S ???

Re: HP-16C - idiot trading it...to Intel 9650 ?? Message #10 Posted by Don Shepherd on 8 Nov 2008, 5:16 p.m., in response to message #9 by V-PN Quote: Any suggestions? Sell the three items on EBay and hope you get enough from the sales to buy the thing you want.

Caveat Emptor: self-titled "idiot" a con? Message #11 Posted by Allen on 8 Nov 2008, 10:40 p.m., in response to message #10 by Don Shepherd Caveat Emptor FWIW, I think this VPN guy is a waste of time. He says: Quote: Let's talk business. He keeps emailing me regarding these things he's selling, but won't be upfront about what he has or what he expects to get for it. You can see from his thread that he's just idiot fishing on the forum... While my email replies have included requests for more information, he has refused to send a written description of what he's actually selling, and only a few hard-won blurry photos. I won't be buying or trading ANYTHING with this fellow, I smell a con or worse- an idiot (self-proclaimed, I might add).

Re: Caveat Emptor: self-titled "idiot" a con? Message #12 Posted by V-PN on 9 Nov 2008, 6:28 a.m., in response to message #11 by Allen I'll try to get a real digital camera from my friends, not this cameraphone. My IQ is above average, but I feel as an idiot ever giving up on my calcs. "con" as trying to husttle? I've been using HP-calcs since HP-21. Use Google Groups you may find out that from 1999 when HP/ACO released the 49G I have been active. ALSO I have offered to send the calculators BEFORE I get anything in return.

VPN is no idiot :-) Message #13 Posted by Gene Wright on 10 Nov 2008, 10:15 a.m., in response to message #12 by V-PN How you doing Veli-Pekka?

Re: Caveat Emptor: self-titled "idiot" a con? Message #14 Posted by Etienne Victoria on 10 Nov 2008, 5:13 p.m., in response to message #11 by Allen Having read this forum and Hp newsgroups for some years, I certainly would not consider VP-N as an idiot, even "self-proclaimed". Before emitting such statements on other people, you might want to base your opinion on something else/more than english fluency or mere ability to close a deal with you. Etienne

Re: Caveat Emptor: self-titled "idiot" a con? Message #15 Posted by Allen on 10 Nov 2008, 7:37 p.m., in response to message #14 by Etienne Victoria Quote: Before emitting such statements on other people, you might want to base your opinion on something else/more than english fluency or mere ability to close a deal with you. Well said. I do not consider him so...neither on his bartering ability nor on his language. He has sufficient English language.. more than most Americans I have met. And I am not basing on closing a deal with me at all.. I am concerned that the seller has repeatedly offered these calculators for sale, while ignoring requests for more detailed information. That is my observation.. nothing else.

Re: Caveat Emptor: self-titled "idiot" a con? Message #16 Posted by V-PN on 12 Nov 2008, 4:00 p.m., in response to message #15 by Allen I just loaned a digicamera from a friend, not all phots are sharp, there was no optical image stabilizer. To those two who were still "on" and patient enough, I have posted the photos personally. One of them was willing to send me the CPU, which I request AFTER the calcs have been examined - as I have suggested to EVERYONE who e-mailed me - included those who suspect I'm from Nigeria. So any "scam" possibility is the other way around... Where do people suggest I upload all the photos for everyone to see? Just you can enjoy my collection as long as it lasts (the photos will stay..."forever")

Re: Caveat Emptor: self-titled "idiot" a con? Message #17 Posted by V-PN on 12 Nov 2008, 4:42 p.m., in response to message #16 by V-PN HP calc photos on my Facebook

Re: Caveat Emptor: self-titled "idiot" a con? Message #18 Posted by V-PN on 12 Nov 2008, 4:42 p.m., in response to message #16 by V-PN HP calc photos on my Facebook

Re: Caveat Emptor: self-titled "idiot" a con? Message #19 Posted by V-PN on 14 Nov 2008, 8:50 a.m., in response to message #11 by Allen Well, Allen, now there are better photographs: Facebook image gallery of my HP-calcs Are you changing your attitude/opinion a bit? The price is still Intel Q9550, but you may offer money, too.

Re: Caveat Emptor: self-titled "idiot" a con? Message #20 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 14 Nov 2008, 9:14 a.m., in response to message #19 by V-PN V-PN, your gallery isn't visible outside the Facebook community. :(

Re: Caveat Emptor: self-titled "idiot" a con? Message #21 Posted by Don Shepherd on 14 Nov 2008, 9:15 a.m., in response to message #19 by V-PN Can't you post them somewhere where you don't need an account to see them?

Why not use Tinypic? Message #22 Posted by bill platt on 14 Nov 2008, 10:00 a.m., in response to message #19 by V-PN http://www.tinypic.com it is free.

Re: Why not use Tinypic? Message #23 Posted by V-PN on 14 Nov 2008, 12:40 p.m., in response to message #22 by bill platt Now they are on tinypic - how to share them?

Flicr HP calc photos Message #24 Posted by V-PN on 14 Nov 2008, 1:38 p.m., in response to message #23 by V-PN Flicr HP calc photos

Re: Flicr HP calc photos Message #25 Posted by George Bailey (Bedford Falls) on 14 Nov 2008, 1:48 p.m., in response to message #24 by V-PN V-PN, why don't you just put them up on ebay?

Re: Flicr HP calc photos Message #26 Posted by V-PN on 14 Nov 2008, 3:08 p.m., in response to message #25 by George Bailey (Bedford Falls) Is it also available in Finnish? The User Interface? Legal texts? I already have this much trouble and suspicion on a friendly and closed community like this and you're gonna throw me to the wolfs? -BTW: did the Flickr work?

Re: Flicr HP calc photos Message #27 Posted by George Bailey (Bedford Falls) on 14 Nov 2008, 3:29 p.m., in response to message #26 by V-PN Flikr worked. Finish ebay? Don't know. But English is available! ;-) I'm based in Europe and bought from Western Europe, UK, USA and even Asia via ebay with no problems. The beauty of it is that you can judge your partner by his/her feedback, which is not available here. Also international payment via paypal is very convenient. Edited: 14 Nov 2008, 3:30 p.m.

Re: Flicr HP calc photos Message #28 Posted by V-PN on 16 Nov 2008, 6:15 a.m., in response to message #27 by George Bailey (Bedford Falls) I put them now on the HP-nuseum ads page | 16C+manual | 17BII | 25 | 32S | 32SII | 41CX modules: | 42S | 48SX | 49G | 71B+modules | 71B with corroted battery terminals | 75C+8K RAM | 700LX OmniGo+suitable Nokia phone | Make an offer in Euros | or trade to Intel Q9550 CPU Pictures of my calcs for sale

Re: Why not use Tinypic? Message #29 Posted by bill platt on 14 Nov 2008, 10:41 p.m., in response to message #23 by V-PN

Re: HP-16C - idiot trading it...to Intel 9650 ?? Message #30 Posted by Reth on 8 Nov 2008, 10:22 p.m., in response to message #9 by V-PN I'll give you 100 euros for the 42s w/o manual Reth

Re: HP-16C - idiot trading it...to Intel 9650 ?? Message #31 Posted by V-PN on 21 Nov 2008, 6:54 a.m., in response to message #30 by Reth Now that I have found the manual AND there are better pictures available Flickr: my hp calcs do you have another offer considering also the information on this page: http://www.hpmuseum.org/collect.htm

Re: HP-16C - idiot ... Message #32 Posted by Walter B on 9 Nov 2008, 3:51 a.m., in response to message #9 by V-PN Quote: [pre]I don't know the price level HP-42S without manual? cheaper or more expensive? How about HP-16C+manual + HP-71B(AC-power only)? Any suggestions? How much all together? 71B. 16C, 42S ??? Final attempt: IF you want to format your posts THEN read at this link here first. And make sure you understand what you read before applying. I offer you 100,01€ for the 42s, BTW ;)

Re: HP-16C - idiot ... Message #33 Posted by Reth on 9 Nov 2008, 8:48 p.m., in response to message #32 by Walter B I give up, Walter, it's all yours - my offer was final ;) Cheers, Reth

Re: HP-16C - idiot ... Message #34 Posted by Walter B on 10 Nov 2008, 1:12 a.m., in response to message #33 by Reth Thanks, Reth, that was a close race. But obviously the seller won't sell for money at all - seems to live in a prepecuniary, but postbovine economy at a hidden site in the snowy forests of Suomi, or has a combined dollar-euro-allergy? ;) Edited to correct an expression. Edited: 11 Nov 2008, 2:12 a.m.

Re: HP-16C - idiot ... Message #35 Posted by V-PN on 17 Nov 2008, 2:48 p.m., in response to message #34 by Walter B but now I found the manual of the 42S and other manuals, too, For the 71B and 48S non-HP books and other neat stuff.

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