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Bugs- Bugs and Bugs!!
Message #1 Posted by Diehl-Peshkur on 23 Aug 2007, 6:48 a.m.

I've read the list of bugs in the 35s posted and discussed at length here; of course, one would expect a new HP to be free of bugs. But, I can't get really upset about it as nearly every complicated product will have them. I also suspect that the known bugs are not going to result in airplane crashes or world incidents either - only irritation perhaps :-)

But was DOES interest me, is how the 35s compares to its bretheren. I have never even owned a TI or Casio, after having been bitten by the RPN bug in the '80's and haven't a clue as to whether the 35s scores better or worse than the others.

So, do any of you have bug lists of other brands so that we can compared them to our beloved 35s in the meantime?

I think that would make quite interesting reading, either positive or negative!! All the best! T

      
Re: Bugs- Bugs and Bugs!!
Message #2 Posted by bill platt on 23 Aug 2007, 7:40 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Diehl-Peshkur

Quote:
of course, one would expect a new HP to be free of bugs

Really? And why would one expect that?

How about the original HP-35 trig and exponential bugs? And the HP 32sii fraction bugs? Early HP-41C small-angle SIN bug, out of range indirection bug, CLP bug, and a host of others in the early 41C...67/97 ARCSIN & ARCCOS erroneous results for specific arguments, HP-75C file renaming lockup bug and other bugs.

Even the 42S (in early ones and in later ones but not middle of production) had a bug--Comb or Perm with backwards arguments that you then SWAP to correct order will not work.

If you started life on a HP-15c where there were no bugs, you can have hi expectations. But even the 11C had a bug--the "backspace over decimal and increment by one" bug!

So what was that about expectations?

            
Re: Bugs- Bugs and Bugs!!
Message #3 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 23 Aug 2007, 8:13 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by bill platt

Hi, Bill:

Bill wrote:

"If you started life on a HP-15c where there were no bugs, you can have hi expectations. But even the 11C had a bug--the "backspace over decimal and increment by one" bug!"

    Actually, the HP-15C has at least *one* bug, which was discovered and posted in this forum a few months ago.

    And the HP-71B, which is a most marvelous handheld model if there ever was one, had a bug list several pages long for its 1BBBB released version, and not precisely trivial ones. Even the 1CCCC release had to be quickly updated when a very serious, memory-corrupting bug was introduced anew which didn't exist in the previous 1BBBB model.

Best regards from V.
                  
Re: Bugs- Bugs and Bugs!!
Message #4 Posted by Diehl-Peshkur on 23 Aug 2007, 9:06 a.m.,
in response to message #3 by Valentin Albillo

Seems impossible to get away from HP bugs :-0 :-) :-( Still wondering about the other brands.... Cheers, T

                        
Re: Bugs- Bugs and Bugs!!
Message #5 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 23 Aug 2007, 9:11 a.m.,
in response to message #4 by Diehl-Peshkur

Probably even buggier ... but they won't tell ! :-)

Best regards from V.

                              
Re: Bugs- Bugs and Bugs!!
Message #6 Posted by bill platt on 23 Aug 2007, 9:49 a.m.,
in response to message #5 by Valentin Albillo

Any Sharp Bugs?

(Thanks for the additional bug tid-bits---and even the 15C!--I have to find that one).

                  
Re: Bugs- Bugs and Bugs!!
Message #7 Posted by Vincze on 23 Aug 2007, 11:32 a.m.,
in response to message #3 by Valentin Albillo

My friend Valentin, would you post link to message that shows the 15C bug. I tried looking but could not find it and I would like to see what it is.

                        
Re: Bugs- Bugs and Bugs!!
Message #8 Posted by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) on 23 Aug 2007, 12:33 p.m.,
in response to message #7 by Vincze

Probably this.

Greetings,
Massimo

                              
Re: Bugs- Bugs and Bugs!!
Message #9 Posted by bill platt on 23 Aug 2007, 1:01 p.m.,
in response to message #8 by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy)

Oh my god! I was in the *thick* of that discussion and I completely forgot!

I guess I swept that bug right under the rug, along with all other squirmy bad thoughts of HP bugs...


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