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where are we?
Message #1 Posted by db (martinez, ca.) on 16 May 2007, 11:54 p.m.

Does anyone know about this? http://clustrmaps.com/products.htm

If Dave thinks it is safe (i would really hate to be the one who found a way to crash the site), would it be interesting to know where people reading this forum are? Another question is; could it be stuck somewhere to keep it out of the way because the free version has an ad banner.

We know where i am: Martinez is the center of the world, but where are all of you?

Edited: 17 May 2007, 12:01 a.m.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #2 Posted by Fred Lusk on 17 May 2007, 1:56 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Fresno, CA (the other center of the universe)

      
Re: where are we?
Message #3 Posted by Etienne Victoria on 17 May 2007, 3:32 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Cheers Den!

Fourqueux, (Yvelines, France)

More modestly, the origin of our galaxy...

Etienne

      
Re: where are we?
Message #4 Posted by Jean-Michel on 17 May 2007, 4:40 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Hi all,

here is a question that I really wanted to ask for a long time, but without daring to do it. Another thing which is also interesting to know about all of us here, is : "What's your job ?". I know if may be kind of inquisitive, but no one is obliged to answer. In fact, more than the actual job, or the social level in society (correct ?), I think it would be interesting to know if someone is interested in calculators because he's a scientist, an engineer, or something like that, and then he uses one every day for his job, or if it's a hobby without any link with his job. (I apologize for my poor english writing, it's hawful !).

My answer to all of these questions and others asked before in the Forum : I'm french, I live in the woods in a small village (which isn't the center of anything, but a nice region), I'm 40, I own 4 HP's (33C, 41C, 28S and 48GX), that I use quite every day (not the 4 at the same time :-) !) in my job, as a tehnician in car industry. Hope it's interesting and will be followed.

Kind regards.

JML

            
Re: where are we?
Message #5 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 17 May 2007, 5:11 a.m.,
in response to message #4 by Jean-Michel

Hi.
I live here:

 43°40'41"N
 13°18'56"E

that is, in the center of Italy, along the Adriatic sea.

I'm an electronic engineer and my current job is being a Project Portfolio Manager (in the electronic division of my company).
Best regards.
Giancarlo
                  
Re: where are we?
Message #6 Posted by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) on 17 May 2007, 6:12 a.m.,
in response to message #5 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Hello Giancarlo!
According to Google Maps you do not live "along" the Adriatic Sea but, rather, "into" it :)

BTW: I spent one month in Fano in 1982 serving the Army

Greetings,
Massimo

                        
Re: where are we?
Message #7 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 17 May 2007, 6:28 a.m.,
in response to message #6 by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy)

Hi Massimo.
Well, according to the current pollution level of the Adriatic, living "into" it would mean posting from heaven (or hell... >:-> ).
Actually, my house is just 2 hundred meters from the shore, so I *do* hope the global warming will restrain from dipping myself into the Adriatic :-(
Yes, Fano is just a 20 min. driving from where I live.
Best regards.


Giancarlo

            
Re: where are we?
Message #8 Posted by Diego Daz on 17 May 2007, 7:51 a.m.,
in response to message #4 by Jean-Michel

Hi all,

Just for the fun ;-)

28 07' 57" N

15 26' 14" W

Canary Islands.

Engineer at the Telephone Company, 48yo (eager for early retirement :-))

Lots of 41's (+25). I use one daily, the rest of them are mostly to check my projects functionality.

Some 71's waiting for me to have enough spare time to begin messing'em up with probes, scopes, and the like...

Cheers.

Diego.

            
Re: where are we?
Message #9 Posted by Jean-Michel on 17 May 2007, 8:18 a.m.,
in response to message #4 by Jean-Michel

Oops, I simply forgot :

the name of the village where I live is Donnery, about 20 km far from Orlans, to the East. (4753'22.30''N ; 206'29.33''E exactly)

            
Re: where are we?
Message #10 Posted by MarkWayne on 17 May 2007, 3:06 p.m.,
in response to message #4 by Jean-Michel

Theoretical nuclear physicist.

http://rasputin.physics.uiuc.edu/~paris

Glad to be among such admirable and excellent professionals.

Mark

                  
Re: where are we?
Message #11 Posted by Ron Allen on 17 May 2007, 5:38 p.m.,
in response to message #10 by MarkWayne

What a rich tradition in math and theoretical physics, you and Jean Michel have there in France! And to be in education, standing "on the shoulders" of so many great men and women!

I am on Mobile Bay, Eastern Shore, about 88.5W, 30.5N; or 1.5 East of New Orleans, Katrina's eastern boudary - got the reference to Orleans, Jean-Michel. Schooled at Tulane and University of New Orleans. Would like to visit your part of France someday.already been to Paris a few times.

Would like to get a few threads on Relativity, Quantum, String, etc., plus other "Theoreticl" thoughts - would be kind of selfih of me since I would have little to contribute beyond some some good questions. If "y'all" are interested maybe we could get some stimulating chatter in a new subject.

Regards,

Ron

Edited: 17 May 2007, 5:50 p.m.

            
Re: where are we?
Message #12 Posted by Jeff Davis on 18 May 2007, 3:57 p.m.,
in response to message #4 by Jean-Michel

Jeffrey Davis Indianapolis, Indiana Mechanical Engineer 20+ HP calculators Prefer the HP-41 all versions.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #13 Posted by ECL on 17 May 2007, 12:09 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

California, USA

Aerospace Structures Engineer

HP48, 33s, 42s.

ECL

      
Re: where are we?
Message #14 Posted by Thomas Okken on 17 May 2007, 12:43 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

I'm age 42, currently living in North Brunswick, New Jersey, USA, and employed as a Software Engineer by a large telecommunications company whose logo looks like the Death Star from the original Star Wars movie. ;-)
When I think "home", I think of De Bilt, Netherlands.

I own a small collection of calculators (HP-25, 67, 15C, 42S, 48G; TI-58, 59, 58C) but I never use them since I spend all my day working with various computers (and of course I installed Free42 on all of them).

- Thomas

      
Re: where are we?
Message #15 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 17 May 2007, 12:56 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Hi.
Here's a first summary:

WHO			CITY		REGION / STATE	COUNTRY
db (martinez, ca)	Martinez	California	USA
Fred Lusk		Fresno		California	USA
Etienne Victoria	Yvelines			FRANCE
Jean-Michel L.		Donnery				FRANCE
Giancarlo Mattioni	Montemarciano			ITALY
Diego Diaz		Canary Islands			SPAIN
ECL			California			USA
Thomas Okken		De Bilt				NETHERLANDS


Best regards.
Giancarlo
            
Re: where are we?
Message #16 Posted by Trent Moseley on 17 May 2007, 10:00 p.m.,
in response to message #15 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Giancarlo--

Please keep us updated at your leisure on the latest info.

tm

      
Re: where are we?
Message #17 Posted by Ricardo Guerreiro (Argentina) on 17 May 2007, 1:02 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Comodoro Rivadavia, Repblica Argentina. Small city in the middle of the east coast of Patagonia Argentina. I can not explain why my fascination with calculators. I am Civil Engineer. I do not use them so much, because computers (desktop or laptops) are much more convenient if the calculation is beyond a couple of operations. I own hp calculators because I like to have fine tools to do my job. I am not confortable working with cheap thinks. Of course, it is now, when I am a profesional (40 years). As a student, I used a cheap casio.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #18 Posted by Ed Look on 17 May 2007, 1:14 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

the capital of Planet Earth: New York City

... well, very close, anyway.

Edited: 17 May 2007, 1:14 p.m.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #19 Posted by Hal Bitton on 17 May 2007, 1:53 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Boise, Idaho (USA).
A well kept secret that's out of the bag now, as the growth is off the charts (and the gridlock is getting that way too!). Home to HP's printer division (the Lazer Jet was developed at the Boise site). Also, such international corporations as Boise Cascade, Washington Group (formerly Morrison Knudson), and Micron technology are headquartered here.
I work for Micron.
cheers, Hal

            
Re: where are we?
Message #20 Posted by Trent Moseley on 17 May 2007, 3:01 p.m.,
in response to message #19 by Hal Bitton

Trent Moseley, 80 years old. Retired engineer from The Pacific Telephone and Telegraph Co. Live in Redwood City California for the last 50 years, on the San Francisco Peninsula. This is near db across the Bay in Martinez.

tm

      
Re: where are we?
Message #21 Posted by Paul Dale on 17 May 2007, 5:04 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Brisbane, Australia

- Pauli

      
Re: where are we?
Message #22 Posted by Wayne Brown on 17 May 2007, 6:06 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Birmingham, Alabama

Sysadmin

HP-16C, HP-41CX, HP48GX

K+E 4081-3, Post VersaLog, Pickett N600-ES, etc.

Edited: 17 May 2007, 6:09 p.m.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #23 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 17 May 2007, 6:47 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Hi, Martinez:

    Nam:  Valentin Albillo

Age: 49

Job: Senior Project Manager & Senior Engineer

Hob: Math, Programming, HP calcs, Sci-Fi, Audiovisuals, Chess, Science

Loc: Madrid (Spain)

Cal: Emu71

Best regards from V.

Edited: 17 May 2007, 8:14 p.m.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #24 Posted by Richard Garner on 17 May 2007, 6:52 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Richard Garner

Twice as Nice, Twin City of Texarkana Arkansas/Texas. Known as the only city in the world where the dividing line between the 2 cities and 2 states is a City Street/Federal Highway, State Line Avenue. The Federal Courthouse/Post Office sits straddling the state line between the 2 states.

I work for the City of Texarkana, Arkansas as an Engineering Technician/Drafter/CAD-GIS Operator in the Public Works Department.

I use an HP 42S, HP 48GX on a daily basis.

I own or have owned 41CX, 42S, 48SX, 48GX, 28S, 15C, 20C, & 33S

            
Re: where are we?
Message #25 Posted by Iqbal on 17 May 2007, 8:31 p.m.,
in response to message #24 by Richard Garner

Trinidad, West Indies. 41CV,41CX,4-42S, a couple 48GXs,48G+,33S and of course HP50G. Land Surveyor and Lecturer at University of Trinidad and Tobago. I am 40 but I feel like I'm 20 :). I'm Addicted to HP calcs. and 80's music.

            
Some other "border-straddling" towns
Message #26 Posted by Karl Schneider on 26 May 2007, 3:56 p.m.,
in response to message #24 by Richard Garner

Hi, Richard --

Quote:
Twice as Nice, Twin City of Texarkana Arkansas/Texas. Known as the only city in the world where the dividing line between the 2 cities and 2 states is a City Street/Federal Highway, State Line Avenue. The Federal Courthouse/Post Office sits straddling the state line between the 2 states.

which is one of many "border oddities" between Canada and the US' New England region, which includes towns and even houses bisected by the border, which were platted or built prior to accurate surveying.


Er, yes, HP calculator-related content:

Click on the link for the Library and Opera House, and notice that the co-ordinates for Derby Line, Vermont is slightly north of 45 degrees North. I'd always assumed that the international border there was exactly 45 degrees. However, the Webster-Ashburton Treaty established the location 3/4 of a mile north of the line, so that a pre-existing U.S. fort would be on U.S. soil.

Convert the 45 degrees, 0 minutes, 20.81 seconds latitude of Derby Line to decimal using " 45.002081 ->HR ". Multiply the fractional part by 60 nautical miles per degree of latitude. Then, multiply by 1.15077714646 to obtain 0.39913 US statute miles, placing the Library and Opera House less than a half-mile north of the Derby Line location (presumably City Hall).

The ideal tool for this calculation is the HP-28C/S, with its fine units library with definitions and conversions. (Unfortunately, units cannot be attached to numbers, as with the HP-48/49/50.)

Regarding calcutions for surveying: If one does not wich to purchase specialized calculating software or tools, or the accessories for the HP-48/49/50 series, there are several less-expensive options:

  • HP-71 5061-7238 Surveying ROM
  • HP-41 Surveying Pac
  • HP-65 Surveying Pac

-- KS

Edited: 27 May 2007, 3:51 p.m.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #27 Posted by PeterP on 17 May 2007, 10:46 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Originally from Vienna, Austria now New York City.

Physicist by training, now working in Finance.

Use a 41CY for work almost daily. Since recently also use a 71b (the 'culprit' for that change can be found among the Grandmasters here...) on a daily basis, though more for play and learning as I am still not very good with it (but I am getting better!)

Cheers

Peter

      
Re: where are we?
Message #28 Posted by Dave Shaffer on 17 May 2007, 11:01 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Living in Flagstaff, Arizona (where it is fairly cool, unlike most people's perception of Arizona - we are at an elevation of 7000 feet!) My favorite place in the world, though, may be Green Bank, West Virginia - the original site of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory.

I'm a semi-retired Radio Astronomer.

In order of acquisition, I have HP35, 11C, 41CX, 38G (via eBay, I was faked out by the big "enter" key - thought it was RPN but it's algebraic!), 41C (via ebay), 32Sii, 42S, 48GX, and 33S (all acquired new except as noted). I used my Dad's 35 for 2 days straight to finish my thesis, then I had to get one of my own. I still use one of the 41's almost every day for both scientific and casual calculations.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #29 Posted by Eric Rechlin on 17 May 2007, 11:39 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

29 44' N 95 26' W

You figure it out. :)

25 years old. I'm an electrical engineer by training, but I currently write software for the oil and gas industry.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #30 Posted by Karl Schneider on 18 May 2007, 12:38 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Electrical Engineer in Vancouver, Washington, USA -- in same metropolitan area as "MoHPC headquarters".

The city and state are named for George Vancouver and George Washington, as are the better-known namesake North American cities.

Bought first RPN calculator (HP-15C) in 1983; started collecting in 2002 with HP-41CV, HP-34C, and HP-42S.

-- KS

      
Re: where are we?
Message #31 Posted by James M. Prange (Michigan) on 18 May 2007, 2:18 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

China

No, not one of those Chinas; I'm about at the point of this green arrow, the center of my universe for longer than I can remember. There isn't anywhere that I'd rather be.

It's been about 500730 hours since I drew my first breath.

Metrology technician (quality assurance).

HP: 12C, 16C, 28C, 28S, 48SX, 48GX, 49G, 49g+, 50g, 82240A, 82240B

Sharp: EL-5520

Radio Shack: EC-4004

Lloyd's: E608

Regards,
James

Edited: 18 May 2007, 2:43 a.m.

            
Re: where are we?
Message #32 Posted by James M. Prange (Michigan) on 18 May 2007, 11:30 a.m.,
in response to message #31 by James M. Prange (Michigan)

Rats! While I was playing around with the Radio Shack EC-4004 (re-badged Casio fx-3600P) the original CR2025 cell finally went dead. I know for certain that I used it in 1988, and perhaps a few years before that, so that CR2025 lasted about 20 years. But I'll grant that it's seldom been turned on since I got my hands on the HP-28S.

Regards,
James

            
Re: where are we?
Message #33 Posted by James M. Prange (Michigan) on 21 May 2007, 6:55 p.m.,
in response to message #31 by James M. Prange (Michigan)

PS:

For work, normally a 48SX, but occasionally a 48GX.

For "real work" at home (when I just want to get some calculating done with no nonsense), either a 48SX or 48GX, whichever one is easiest to reach.

For just playing around with, most often the 50g now, but sometimes the 49g+ or 49G.

The Sharp is "interesting" and powerful, but I rather object to switching between "calculator" mode for ordinary interactive calculating and "basic" mode for writing and running programs, and of course, in calculator mode, it's an algebraic model.

The Radio Shack is interesting and powerful too, even though it's algebraic, and writing programs for it can be rather a challenge, but I'm often amazed at how much can be accomplished in just 38 program steps (but some things, such as storing a number into a constants register, count as only 1 program step, not 3 as might be expected).

The Lloyds is just a simple 8-digit 4-banger plus square root, %, +/-, and a memory register, but it's my oldest still-working calculator, and it still works with the original battery from about 1980.

I overlooked at least one, even though it's often in my shirt pocket, a Radio Shack EC-232. This is a thin solar-powered "credit card-sized" 4-banger with a membrane keypad. It's a pain in the neck to use, but the nice thing about it is that it fits in my shirt pocket so comfortably.

Regards,
James

      
Re: where are we?
Message #34 Posted by Antonio Maschio (Italy) on 18 May 2007, 2:33 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Montebelluna,

20 Km from Treviso

which is 20 Km from Venice.

-- Antonio

      
Re: where are we? - 2nd update
Message #35 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 18 May 2007, 3:14 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Hi all.
Here's a second update:

WHO			CITY		REGION / STATE	COUNTRY
db (martinez, ca)	Martinez	California	USA
Fred Lusk		Fresno		California	USA
Etienne Victoria	Yvelines			FRANCE
Jean-Michel L.		Donnery				FRANCE
Giancarlo Mattioni	Montemarciano			ITALY
Diego Diaz		Canary Islands			SPAIN
ECL			California			USA
Thomas Okken		De Bilt				NETHERLANDS
Mark Paris		Newport News	Virginia		USA		
Ron Allen		Mobile Bay	Louisiana	USA
Ricardo Guereiro	Comodoro Rivadavia		ARGENTINA
Ed Look			New York	New York	USA
Hal Bitton		Boise		Idaho		USA
Trent Moseley		Redwood City	California	USA
Paul Dale		Brisbane			AUSTRALIA
Wayne Brown		Birmingham	Alabama		USA
Valentin Albillo	Madrid				SPAIN
Richard Garner		Texarkana	Arkansas/Texas	USA
Iqbal							TRINIDAD&TOBAGO
PeterP			Vienna				AUSTRIA
Dave Shaffer		Flagstaff	Arizona		USA
Eric Rechlin		Bismarck	North Dakota	USA
Karl Schneider		Vancouver	Washington	USA
James M. Prange		China		Michigan	USA
Antonio Maschio		Montebelluna			ITALY

I did practice some geography because of some of you bad guys ;-)
Best regards.
Giancarlo
            
A couple suggestions
Message #36 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 18 May 2007, 4:32 a.m.,
in response to message #35 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Nice effort, Giancarlo !

    Just a couple of well-spirited suggestions:

    1. Sort the list, either by name or surname, I guess by name would be better

    2. Include also age, job, and calcs, as many people gave those data and they're pretty interesting as well.

    This could be the early stages of a proper 'Active Directory' of forum regulars :-)

Best regards from V.
            
Re: where are we? - 2nd update
Message #37 Posted by Geir Isene on 18 May 2007, 4:56 a.m.,
in response to message #35 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Geir Isene => Oslo, Norway
web: http://www.geir.isene.com

                  
Re: where are we? - 2nd update
Message #38 Posted by Geir Isene on 18 May 2007, 5:49 p.m.,
in response to message #37 by Geir Isene

Ok, a bit more here:

Age: 40
Occupation: CEO of FreeCode

            
Re: where are we? - 3rd update including suggestions ;-)
Message #39 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 18 May 2007, 5:49 a.m.,
in response to message #35 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Hi.
A new update including some suggestions (still compiling tghe list for owned calcs :-)

WHO			CITY		REGION / STATE	COUNTRY		AGE	JOB
===			====		==============	=======		===	===
db (martinez, ca)	Martinez	California	USA
Fred Lusk		Fresno		California	USA
Etienne Victoria	Yvelines			FRANCE
Jean-Michel L.		Donnery				FRANCE		40	Technician in Car Industry
Giancarlo Mattioni	Montemarciano			ITALY		41	Project Manager
Diego Diaz		Canary Islands			SPAIN		48	Engineer at the Telephone Company
ECL			California			USA			Aerospace Structures Engineer
Thomas Okken		De Bilt				NETHERLANDS	42	Software Engineer
Mark Wayne Paris	Newport News	Virginia	USA			Theoretical nuclear physicist	
Ron Allen		Mobile Bay	Louisiana	USA
Ricardo Guereiro	Comodoro Rivadavia		ARGENTINA	40	Civil Engineer
Ed Look			New York	New York	USA
Hal Bitton		Boise		Idaho		USA			Works for Micron
Trent Moseley		Redwood City	California	USA		80	Retired engineer from The Pacific T&T Co.
Paul Dale		Brisbane			AUSTRALIA
Wayne Brown		Birmingham	Alabama		USA			System Administrator
Valentin Albillo	Madrid				SPAIN		49	Senior Project Manager & Senior Engineer
Richard Garner		Texarkana	Arkansas/Texas	USA			Engineering Technician/Drafter/CAD-GIS Operator
Iqbal							TRINIDAD&TOBAGO	40	Land Surveyor and Lecturer
PeterP			Vienna				AUSTRIA			Physicist by training, now working in Finance
Dave Shaffer		Flagstaff	Arizona		USA			Semi-retired Radio Astronomer
Eric Rechlin		Bismarck	North Dakota	USA		25	Electrical Engineer by training, currently writing sw for the oil and gas industry
Karl Schneider		Vancouver	Washington	USA			Electrical Engineer
James M. Prange		China		Michigan	USA		57	Metrology technician (quality assurance)
Antonio Maschio		Montebelluna			ITALY
HrastProgrammer		Zagreb				CROATIA
Meindert Kuipers	Oss				NETHERLANDS
Vassilis Prevelakis	Athens				GREECE
GE							FRANCE		42	In Finance but originally an engineer
Inigo Rodriguez		Madrid				SPAIN
Geir Isene		Oslo				NORWAY
Thomas Radtke		Osnabruck			GERMANY
Massimo Gnerucci	Milano				ITALY

Best regards.
Giancarlo
                  
Re: where are we? - 3rd update including suggestions ;-)
Message #40 Posted by Antonio Maschio (Italy) on 18 May 2007, 10:01 a.m.,
in response to message #39 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Well, I'm 41 and I'm a civil engineer, with 75 calculators in the collection, and among these 17 HPs.

Just to update your table, Giancarlo!

-- Antonio

P.S. My father had your name.

                        
Re: where are we? - 3rd update including suggestions ;-)
Message #41 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 18 May 2007, 10:20 a.m.,
in response to message #40 by Antonio Maschio (Italy)

Antonio,
I got your update!
Glad to hear your father's naming, sad for that verb *had* :-(
Saluti.
Giancarlo

                              
Re: where are we? - 3rd update including suggestions ;-)
Message #42 Posted by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) on 18 May 2007, 12:56 p.m.,
in response to message #41 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Sorry for Antonio's father, too.
Giancarlo, I have to admit that also my father is named like you...

Greetings,
Massimo

                  
Re: where are we? - 3rd update including suggestions ;-)
Message #43 Posted by Dave Shaffer on 18 May 2007, 10:48 a.m.,
in response to message #39 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Giancarlo,

This is GREAT! Thanks for all the work.

I second Valentin's suggestion that this somehow become a quick intro to the denizens of the forum.

Is there some way to make this updatable by each of us so you don't have to do all the work? (Probably not - somebody will trash it!) Actually, once the initial work is done, it might not be too much work to add new folks as they send you their details.

I would suggest instead of age (which changes!) that year of birth be used.

Maybe also a column for number/brands of calculators (like the recent round of such info) as well as a column for favorite(s).

PS for the current table, I'm 61.

                  
A minor correction ...
Message #44 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 18 May 2007, 12:20 p.m.,
in response to message #39 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Hi, Giancarlo:

Giancarlo posted (the underlining is mine):

    "A new update including some suggestions (still compiling tghe list for owned calcs :-)"

      I think that it should be calcs actually used at work rather than owned calcs. At least that is what was originally asked, and the first posters replied to that, myself included: obviously I do have 70 calcs, but the only one I use at work is Emu71.

      This would be much more interesting and IMHO preferable to a long list of calculators in everyone's collection. As the jobs are being included too, it's far more relevant and interesting to know that an astronomer, say, still uses an HP-41CX for work, than to know that he owns precisely such, and such, and such, and ... vintage calcs.

      Also, if at all possible, sort the list. It's very easy to do using a great variety of tools and applications, but all failing, issuing a simple SORT command in an MS-DOS box under Windows, like this:

            SORT  <  inputlist.txt  >  sortedlist.txt
      
      say (or a variant), will do the work.

    Thanks a lot for your efforts and

Best regards from V.

                  
Re: where are we? - 3rd update including suggestions ;-)
Message #45 Posted by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) on 18 May 2007, 12:51 p.m.,
in response to message #39 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Massimo Gnerucci, Milano, Italy.
Age: 47
Job: System Administrator
Owned calcs: any handheld HP (more or less)
Preferred calc: HP-41
Used @ work: V41 (well, when you have to sum up something...)

Edited: 18 May 2007, 12:53 p.m.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #46 Posted by HrastProgrammer on 18 May 2007, 3:16 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Hello neighbours (Antonio, Giancarlo, Massimo) ...

I am still far enough (Zagreb, Croatia) from the Adriatic sea so I don't have to be affraid of global warming too much.

Age: 37

Job: Software Developer

Calculators used:

(3x) HP-48GX running HP-71X (with HP-IL emu), HP-42X, HP-41X (with HP-IL emu), HP-15X, HP-16E, HP-11E, HP-12E and TI-57E (in order of significance)

(1x) HP-48G expanded to 1280K running all above

(1x) HP-48G+ running HP-15E, HP-16E, HP-11E and TI-57E

(1x) HP-49G running HP-71X (with HP-IL emu)

Best regards.
Hrast

Edited: 24 May 2007, 1:32 a.m. after one or more responses were posted

            
Re: where are we?
Message #47 Posted by Meindert Kuipers on 18 May 2007, 3:30 a.m.,
in response to message #46 by HrastProgrammer

I live in the small city of Oss (Netherlands).

Meindert

            
Re: where are we?
Message #48 Posted by Antonio Maschio (Italy) on 18 May 2007, 10:03 a.m.,
in response to message #46 by HrastProgrammer

We are nearer than I thought! Probably, to go to Zagreb, I'd take less time than to go to Milano!

-- Antonio

            
Re: where are we?
Message #49 Posted by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) on 18 May 2007, 12:45 p.m.,
in response to message #46 by HrastProgrammer

Hi Zee... Nice to read you!

Massimo

      
Re: where are we?
Message #50 Posted by Vassilis Prevelakis on 18 May 2007, 3:58 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

I live partly in Philadelphia, USA and Athens, Greece.

Here are my ICBM coordinates for Athens:

and this is a picture of me with the Acropolis of Athens in the background:

**vp

            
Re: where are we?
Message #51 Posted by GE on 18 May 2007, 4:10 a.m.,
in response to message #50 by Vassilis Prevelakis

Living in France, 42 years young, in Finance but originally an engineer.
I own about 30 HP, most vintage LED and rarely (if ever) used, with exceptions like the HP41CV/CX (with an MLDL2000, thanks Meindert), HP71s and HP42Ss. No calculators are necessary at work, alas.
I collect this because of an early fascination for math and technology, doing so for the last 15 years.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #52 Posted by Iigo Rodriguez on 18 May 2007, 4:02 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Hi all,

Iigo Rodriguez

Madrid, Spain

HP41, HP71, HP42.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #53 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 18 May 2007, 5:11 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Osnabrueck, Germany

      
Re: where are we?
Message #54 Posted by Les Wright on 18 May 2007, 6:13 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Name: Les Wright

Age: 42

Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Usual Job: Physician

Present Activities: Student, musician, temporarily retired man of leisure, mathematics and programming hobbyist, co-parent of many cats.

Calculators: HP 11C, 12Cp, 15C, 17bii, 14B, 28S, 33C, 34C, 32sii, 33S, 42S, 45, 65, 67, 80, 97, 48G, 49G+. 41CV and 41CX plus some peripherals (82143a, 82162a, wand, card reader, 82240B, HP-IL module, IR module, Math Pac, Stat Pac, Advantage Pac, XF and XM modules). Plus regular use of emulators/simulators (Free42, P41CX, Power48, Emu48, V41). None of calculators NIB, but some (like the 15C and 32sii) are in nearly new condition. All are fully functional, with card readers restored in the calculators that have them (many thanks as always to FixThatCalc.com).

Edited: 18 May 2007, 6:14 a.m.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #55 Posted by Howard Owen on 18 May 2007, 10:18 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

San Mateo, California, USA. Systems Architect/Engineer for the company that invented TLAs. Age 51. 41C[VX], 71B, 42S, 12C, 15C, 16C, 11C, 12C Anniversary, 67, 97, 35, 45, 38C, 28S, 19BII, 18B, 75[CD], 48S[X}, 48G[X+], 49G, 49G+ 50G.

Regards
Howard

Edited: 18 May 2007, 10:20 a.m.

            
Re: where are we?
Message #56 Posted by John B. Mosand on 18 May 2007, 11:01 a.m.,
in response to message #55 by Howard Owen

Trondheim, Norway (63 24N, 10 23E) about the same latitude as Nome, Alaska, although far milder climate thanks to the Gulf Current!

Retired architect and musician (72). Have only a 10C, 48SX and 48GX (plus a large collection of Aristo slide rules). Used to own a 41CX and a couple of other HPs, three Camb.Sinclairs, etc. etc.

      
Re: where are we? Another short update ...
Message #57 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 18 May 2007, 10:56 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Hi.
A different short update:

COUNTRIES COUNT		AGE AVG.
================	========
15	USA	          46,9
3	FRANCE	
3	ITALY	
3	SPAIN	
2	NETHERLANDS	
1	ARGENTINA	
1	AUSTRALIA	
1	AUSTRIA	
1	CROATIA	
1	GERMANY
1	GREECE
1	NORWAY
1	TRINIDAD&TOBAGO


Best regards.
Giancarlo
            
Re: where are we? Another short update ...
Message #58 Posted by Frank B. (Germany) on 18 May 2007, 12:17 p.m.,
in response to message #57 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Name: Frank Balzer

Age: 40

Location: Flensburg, Germany

Job: Physicist, working for an university in Denmark (nanotechnology, photonics)

Own about 70 HP calculators, on a daily basis I use an HP-33S.

            
Re: where are we? Another short update ...
Message #59 Posted by Antonio Maschio (Italy) on 19 May 2007, 11:36 a.m.,
in response to message #57 by Giancarlo (Italy)

...There must be a reason for the fact the average age is over 45.

HP, won't you gain even young guys rebuilding some of the old models with the old quality?

Are you listening?

-- Antonio

            
Re: where are we? Another short update ...
Message #60 Posted by Wayne Brown on 19 May 2007, 8:28 p.m.,
in response to message #57 by Giancarlo (Italy)

I guess I'll raise the average age a bit by adding mine; I'm 52.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #61 Posted by Tom Scott on 18 May 2007, 3:19 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Name: Tom Scott
Age:60
Location: Lander, Wyoming, USA
Job: Retired physicist
Calculators: 6 HP & 1 TI
      
Re: where are we?
Message #62 Posted by Walter B on 18 May 2007, 3:30 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Hechingen, Germany

52

Nuclear physicist, for > 20 years in industry (R&D, QM)

Most of scientific HP calcs with the big ENTER key, plus some other models.

Edited: 18 May 2007, 3:41 p.m.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #63 Posted by Don Williams on 18 May 2007, 5:01 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Location: Yorba Linda, CA

DOB: 1947

Occupation: Retired - Microwave Radar Technician

Calculators:
HP LED's 35ea - still missing the 70 and 27 models
HP LCD's 67ea - just about everything produced
HP HHC's 5ea - The 70, 94 & Expander series
HP Peripherals - Numerous
Other Brands 136ea

Commonly used - HP-41 - Hardware expandable and keystroke programming. IMHO no other "calculator" has ever come close to its capabilities or ease of use. If it can't be done by an HP-41 its time to fire up the PC.

            
Re: where are we?
Message #64 Posted by Paul Guertin on 18 May 2007, 5:54 p.m.,
in response to message #63 by Don Williams

Name: Paul Guertin

Age: 34

Location: Montreal, Canada

Job: math teacher

Calculators: 12 HP (21, 25, 41CV, 11C, 12C, 15C, 16C, 32S, 32Sii, 28S, 48GX, 71B) and a TI 92 Plus.

            
Re: where are we?additions and corrections
Message #65 Posted by Ron Allen on 18 May 2007, 6:17 p.m.,
in response to message #63 by Don Williams

Mobile Bay is in Alabama - I went to college in New Orleans.

Retired from the computer business: IBM, REI, ITEL. STARTED WITH THE TI 59, my first programmable about 1975. First programs for demonstrations in the field included financial and operations analysis deriving workload projections using learning curves and ques based on reliability statistics for various equipment installed. Other uses of the hp line included statistical analysis in market research (mostly before laptops with significant storage). Now using the hp50g in my retirement as a hobby: projecting value of timber harvests, photography in such things as depth of field calculations, etc. and current pet is catching up on readings in theoretical physics.

Cities lived in during working career: Birmingham, Al, Anniston, Al, Huntsville, Al, New Orleans, La, Dallas, Tx, Frankfurt, Germany, Chicago, Il, Washington, DC, Los Angeles, Ca, San Fancisco Bay area, Ca, Pensacola, Fl, Tryon, N.C., Montgomery, Al, and finally in Fairhope, AL, a neat village on the eastern shore of Mobile Bay. Reminds me much of the village of Carmel, California and the string of villages between San Francisco and San Jose: Palo Alto, Mountain View, Saratoga, Los Gatos, to name only a few. As Director of Product Assurance, I enjoyed the opportunity to live in Cupertino just a few blocks from HP.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #66 Posted by Andrs C. Rodrguez on 18 May 2007, 6:38 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Andrs C. Rodrguez
Electronics Engineer
IEEE Member since 1978

Working as IT Manager (not CIO) on a large company.

Age: 49

Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Coordinates: 34 37' 18.5 S; 58 24' 09.0 W

(In case someone looks up my home in Google Earth, the big hole in the next block was the works of a new metro (subway) line, soon to start service - this proves Google Earth images are a couple of years dated)

Married (1983), 2 daughters (born in 1984 and 1989)

Calcs: Very small collection: HP25 (2), HP27 on loan from a friend, HP41C, HP42S, HP48GX, HP LX200, HP32Sii, HP10B, HP20S. On my daughters backpacks: HP30S, HP32S On my desk (I wouldn't miss it too much if it gets damaged or lost): HP33S

I think this info should migrate to the Biographies forum, which is more permanent and appropriate that the general forum.

Edited: 18 May 2007, 7:50 p.m. after one or more responses were posted

            
Re: where are we?
Message #67 Posted by Marta on 18 May 2007, 6:54 p.m.,
in response to message #66 by Andrs C. Rodrguez

Location: JO65kv Calulators: HP11c HP48gx Occupation: Programmer, all from 10F200 to PC's

      
Re: where are we?
Message #68 Posted by Jim Creybohm on 18 May 2007, 7:29 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Jim Creybohm Age 51 Duchess, Alberta, Canada 50.729610 -111.907436

Full time Petroleum Engineer Part time musician, wire fox terrier walker, cat wrangler, cowboy, and full time dad.

Thanks to Randy, my 41, 42S, 12, 25 and 67 are humming along as good as ever.

            
Re: where are we?
Message #69 Posted by JDonley on 18 May 2007, 11:39 p.m.,
in response to message #68 by Jim Creybohm

Don age 68

Agriculture: My wife & I raise wheat, cattle and a small band of sheep. I live in Central Montana....closest neighbor is 5 miles (getting a little crowded, maybe time to think about moving) I have 3 or 4 41's and a load of 10B's and a 19B11. My work with calculators is nearly all finance. Definitely not high finance. Still use my 41C I bought in 1979. Still have my HP 85 I bought from Educalc in about 1980-82?

I feel like a square peg in a round hole on this forum with all you engineer types.

Don

                  
Re: where are we?
Message #70 Posted by Jim Creybohm on 19 May 2007, 11:49 a.m.,
in response to message #69 by JDonley

Don:

Went to School of Mines in Butte, and also ordered my 41CX from Educalc in '82 or 83. I remember being wowed as UPS delivered it in only 4 days! To my door!

I think the cost was around 250 USD. What I wouldn't give to have Educalc around today....

Still travel down annually to Anaconda to golf Old Works.

                        
Re: where are we?
Message #71 Posted by JDonley on 19 May 2007, 11:01 p.m.,
in response to message #70 by Jim Creybohm

Hi Jim;

Sounds like we have alot in common. I was raised around the oil patch on the gulf coast of Texas in the 40's and early 50's. Spent a little time in the late 60's and early 70's buying oil & gas leases in the Powder River basin......didn't make any money. Am not a cat wrangler, but do have a 3 year old cocker spaniel who takes me for a long walk every day. And I have spent many days horseback in my younger years. Wanted to go to school at Colorado school of mines, but ended up at Denver University instead. Am not a golfer however.

best wishes

Don

      
Re: where are we?
Message #72 Posted by Alan Firth on 18 May 2007, 11:55 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Age: 48 (1959)

Occupation: Electrical Engineer

Calcs: HP35(4), 80(2), 45(3), 55(2), 65(1), 67(1), 21(2), 22(1), 25(3), 29C(1), 41C(2), 41CX(2), 16C(1), 12C(1). One nonfunctional 41C Tall Key

Favorite: The 25 for sentimental value, the 67 for wow factor.

Edited: 18 May 2007, 11:56 p.m.

            
Re: where are we?
Message #73 Posted by jacksonconsult on 19 May 2007, 4:47 a.m.,
in response to message #72 by Alan Firth

Place: Manchester, United Kingdom, Europe

Name: Ian Jackson

Age: 40

Occupational: Independent Nuclear Consultant (www.JacksonConsult.com)

HP Calcs: HP-12C, HP-32S, HP-14B (used regularly)

Backup HP Calcs: HP-10C, HP-11C, HP-17B, HP-19BII, HP-42S, HP-27S

Best wishes

Ian J

                  
Re: where are we?
Message #74 Posted by Alain Mellan on 19 May 2007, 9:13 a.m.,
in response to message #73 by jacksonconsult

I'm French, living in Encinitas, California, north of San Diego. Google eEarth says 33� 03' 42.38" N, 117� 15' 58.63" W altitude 51m

Age 44, designing software and hardware for a semi-conductor company. My first HP calculator was an HP43C, bought in 1981. I still own an HP15C from 1985, and in the past years acquired an HP41C and a 48G.

I'm also using Free42, x48 and Emu48 on various computers...

-- alain.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #75 Posted by Patrick R on 19 May 2007, 10:27 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Age 29, living in Luxembourg, physics teacher.

I own "not too many" HP calculators. Several HP48GX's and HP49G's and some HP32sii's. I often play around with a HP42 and a HP97.

homepage: http://www.physique.lu

            
Re: where are we?
Message #76 Posted by Jean-Michel on 19 May 2007, 10:49 a.m.,
in response to message #75 by Patrick R

Hi all,

except if I made a mistake on a firstname (Marta ?), I didn't notice any woman in this long list...

"O tes-vous Mesdames ?" (Were are you, Madame ?)

On the contrary, lots of physicists...

Howerver that may be, all of this is sympathetic !

Regards,

JML

      
Re: where are we?
Message #77 Posted by Jeff Kearns on 19 May 2007, 11:44 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Name: Jeff Kearns

Born: 1965

Job: Engineering Manager and formerly a Marine Engineer

Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Calculators: HP 33E, 41C, 15C, 32sii, 33s, 49G+, Free42, and P41CX for Palm

Main Calculator: HP 41C with Advantage Pac, Machine Design, MATH/STAT and Quad Mem. I also use the others regularly.

My main uses are for Finance, Applied Statistics, Calculus.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #78 Posted by Katie Wasserman on 19 May 2007, 11:53 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

location: Rye Brook, NY -- 21 miles northeast of the true center of the world.

calculators: 100+ HP's, 275 or so others

age: right in there with the rest of this group

occupation: computer consulting, financial firms mostly

only claim to fame :) Google ranks my site number one when searching for calculator manuals wass.net

Edited: 19 May 2007, 11:54 a.m.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #79 Posted by Anntoine M. Coutte ( from so Beautiful France ... ) on 19 May 2007, 12:27 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Hello to all from NY ( NJ ) almost the center of the world, but ... just after Nantes :

Name : Antoine M. Coutte

Age: 54

Job: Airline Pilot for a Cargo Company based in Milan Italy

Hobbies: Celestial Navigation, Navigation in general and maritime navigation in particular, Solar System Planetary Theories, HP41 Programming, " Baroque " Music ( i.e. European music between 1630 and 1760 ) , playing the organ or the piano, writing music, and of course ... long haul flying around the world

Loc: Nantes ( France ) @ N 47 13' and W 001 35'

Calculators : HP41X/Y/Z running on HP48GX and HP49G from HrastProgrammer, and Emu41 by Jean-Franois Garnier

Best Regards to everybody and in particular to Valentin since I " cut and pasted " the frame of your own answer.

Last Note : The simple fact that many of us - dwelling in quite different areas in the World - are ALL right in stating that they live in the center of the World is an extremely sound and strong proof that our Earth can be quite closely identified to a Sphere ...

            
Best regards to you, too, Antoine ! [NT]
Message #80 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 19 May 2007, 2:03 p.m.,
in response to message #79 by Anntoine M. Coutte ( from so Beautiful France ... )

(best regards from V)

      
Re: where are we?
Message #81 Posted by Nenad (Croatia) on 19 May 2007, 2:52 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Nenad Vulic

Split, Croatia

46 years old

Mechanical Engineer (www.crs.hr)

      
Re: where are we?
Message #82 Posted by Les Bell on 20 May 2007, 1:10 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Who: Les Bell

City: Sydney State: New South Wales Country: Australia

Age: 51

Job: Information security consultant, lecturer, author. Though I've taken a year away from most work to complete a Masters degree and (perhaps) start a PhD.

Calculators: Still have a 16C, 41CV, 41CX (with various peripherals & Pacs), plus a 48GX, all bought new. Over the years I've also had a 45, 65, 67 and 41C.

Hobbies: Flying, playing (well, trying to play) guitar.

Best,

--- Les
[http://www.lesbell.com.au]

            
Re: where are we? The picture of the "big family" :-)
Message #83 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 20 May 2007, 10:36 a.m.,
in response to message #82 by Les Bell

With most of your suggestions (date of birth instead of age, ordering, used calcs @ work):

NAME			CITY		REGION / STATE		COUNTRY		DOB	JOB				CALCS USED @ WORK
====			====		==============		========	===	===				==================
Alain Mellan		Encinitas	California		USA		1963	Designing software
											and hardware for a
											semi-conductor company		Free42, x48, Emu48
Alan Firth		Calgary		Alberta			CANADA		1959	Electrical Engineer	
Andrés C. Rodríguez	Buenos Aires				ARGENTINA	1958	Electronics Engineer			33S
Antoine M. Couëtte	Nantes					FRANCE		1953	Airline Pilot	
Antonio Maschio		Montebelluna				ITALY		1966	Civil Engineer	
Dave Shaffer		Flagstaff	Arizona			USA		1946	Semi-retired Radio Astronomer		41
db			Martinez	California		USA			
Diego Diaz		Canary Islands				SPAIN		1959	Engineer @ the Telephone Company	41
Don					Montana			USA			Agriculture	41C
Don Williams		Yorba Linda	California		USA		1947	Retired - Microwave Radar Techn.	41
ECL					California		USA			Aerospace Structures Engineer	  HP48, 33S, 42S
Ed Look			New York	New York		USA			
Eric Rechlin		Bismarck	North Dakota		USA		1982	Electrical Engineer by training,
											currently writing sw for the oil
											and gas industry	
Etienne Victoria	Yvelines				FRANCE			
Frank Balzer		Flensburg				GERMANY		1967	Physicist				33S
Fred Lusk		Fresno		California		USA			
GE								FRANCE		1965	In Finance but originally an engineer	
Geir Isene		Oslo					NORWAY		1967	CEO of FreeCode	
Gerson W. Barbosa	Curitiba	Paranà			BRASIL			Military technician	       sped-up 15C (2.2x),
														       Free42, Power48 on
														       the PalmTX.
Giancarlo Mattioni	Montemarciano				ITALY		1966	Project Manager			50G, 42S, 15C
Hal Bitton		Boise		Idaho			USA			Works for Micron	
Howard Owen		San Mateo	California		USA		1956	Systems Architect/Engineer	
HrastProgrammer		Zagreb					CROATIA		1970	Software Developer	
Ian Jackson		Manchester				UK		1967	Independent Nuclear Consultant	12C, 32S, 14B
Inigo Rodriguez		Madrid					SPAIN			
Iqbal								TRINIDAD&TOBAGO	1967	Land Surveyor and Lecturer	
James M. Prange		China		Michigan		USA		1950	Metrology technician (quality assurance)	
Jean-Michel L.		Donnery					FRANCE		1967	Technician in Car Industry	33C, 41C, 28S, 48GX
Jeff Kearns		Ottawa		Ontario			CANADA		1965	Engineering Manager and
											formerly a Marine Engineer	33E, 41C, 15C,
															32sii, 33s, 49G+,
															Free42, P41CX for Palm
Jeffrey Davis		Indianapolis	Indiana			USA			Mechanical Engineer			41
Jim Creybohm		Duchess		Alberta			CANADA		1956	Petroleum Engineer	
John B. Mosand		Trondheim				NORWAY		1935	Retired architect and musician	
Karl Schneider		Vancouver	Washington		USA			Electrical Engineer	
Katie Wassermann	Rye Brook	New York		USA			Computer consulting	
Les Bell		Sidney		New South Wales		AUSTRALIA	1956	Information security consultant, lecturer, author	
Les Wright		Toronto		Ontario			CANADA		1965	Physician			Free42, P41CX,
															Power48, Emu48, V41
Mark Wayne Paris	Newport News	Virginia		USA			Theoretical nuclear physicist	
Marta					Programmer	
Massimo Gnerucci	Milano					ITALY		1960	System Administrator			V41
Meindert Kuipers	Oss					NETHERLANDS			
Nenad Vulic		Split					CROATIA		1961	Mechanical Engineer	
Patrick R							LUXEMBURG	1978	Physics teacher	
Paul Dale		Brisbane				AUSTRALIA			
Paul Guertin		Montreal				CANADA			Math Teacher	
PeterP			Vienna					AUSTRIA			Physicist by training,	
											now working in Finance		      41CY, 71B
Ricardo Guereiro	Comodoro Rivadavia			ARGENTINA	1967	Civil Engineer	
Richard Garner		Texarkana	Arkansas/Texas		USA			Engineering Technician/
											Drafter/CAD-GIS Operator	      42S, 48GX
Ron Allen		Mobile Bay	Alabama			USA			Retired from the computer business	
Thomas Okken		De Bilt					NETHERLANDS	1965	Software Engineer			Free42
Thomas Radtke		Osnabruck				GERMANY			
Tom Scott		Lander		Wyoming			USA		1947	Retired physicist	
Trent Moseley		Redwood City	California		USA		1927	Retired engineer from The Pacific T&T Co.	
Valentin Albillo	Madrid					SPAIN		1958	Senior Project Manager &
											Senior Engineer				Emu71
Vassilis Prevelakis	Athens					GREECE			
Walter B		Hechingen				GERMANY			Nuclear physicist	
Wayne Brown		Birmingham	Alabama			USA		1955	System Administrator		16C, 41CX, 48GX


Hope the listing is not becoming too messy to be showed as a message...
I'm sorry but I'm not sure I'll be able to implement & maintain the list of calcs with favourites and so on...
Also the stats have been updated:

COUNTRIES COUNT		AGE AVG.
===============	        ========
21	USA	          47,1
5	CANADA	
4	FRANCE	
3	GERMANY	
3	ITALY	
3	SPAIN	
2	ARGENTINA	
2	AUSTRALIA	
2	CROATIA	
2	NETHERLANDS	
2	NORWAY	
1	AUSTRIA	
1	BRASIL	
1	GREECE	
1	LUXEMBURG	
1	TRINIDAD&TOBAGO	
1	UNITED KINGDOM	


Yes, it looks like a big, variegated family :-)
Best regards.
Giancarlo
                  
Re: where are we? The picture of the "big family" :-)
Message #84 Posted by Thomas Okken on 21 May 2007, 10:57 a.m.,
in response to message #83 by Giancarlo (Italy)

I hate to be the geek to point this out, but you can't reliably find a person's year of birth by subtracting their age from the current year! I'm 42 but I was born in 1964.

- Thomas

                        
Re: where are we? The picture of the "big family" :-)
Message #85 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 21 May 2007, 11:07 a.m.,
in response to message #84 by Thomas Okken

Thomas,
I got the point, but I had to make some assumptions because I had "mixed" figures (some years of birth and some ages).
However you and any other please feel free to point out any amendment you'd like to see
and I'll be glad to update the table accordingly :-)
Thank you and best regards.
Giancarlo

                  
Re: where are we? The picture of the "big family" :-)
Message #86 Posted by Nelson M. Sicuro (Brazil) on 21 May 2007, 11:23 a.m.,
in response to message #83 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Please add my data:

Name: Nelson M. Sicuro
City: Curitiba
State: Paran
Country: Brazil
DOB: 1967
Job: Chief Software Developer at UFPR, electronics hobbyst
Calcs:
 *Several HPs, mostly used: 15C, 42S (with 32K+32K RAM!!), 32S
 *One HP-85A :D
 *One sharp PC-1260 (updated to 16KB RAM) that I love and carry everywhere :D
Best regards,

Nelson

                  
Re: where are we? The picture of the "big family" :-)
Message #87 Posted by Walter B on 21 May 2007, 1:29 p.m.,
in response to message #83 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Buon giorno Giancarlo,

please add 1954 as my DOB (though I gave you my age, but it was ambiguous).

Mille grazie!

                  
Re: where are we? The picture of the "big family" :-)
Message #88 Posted by Richard Ottosen on 21 May 2007, 1:41 p.m.,
in response to message #83 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Name: Richard Ottosen Age: 55.973 Location: Denver, Colorado, USA. In the high plains at the edge of the eastern foothills of the Rocky Mountains.

Occupation: Consulting in the design of small embedded computers.

Used every day: HP-41C (bought new and still looks and works that way).

RPN calculators owned: 41C with Quad Memory, HP32SII, 2 each DIY-RPN 25, DIY-RPN 33. Non-RPN calculators owned: 2 each HP-6S, 2 each Sinclair Scientific. Used to have: 2 each HP-25, HP-33, HP32S, Novus "programmable" scientific.

Hobbies: Bicycling the city and over mountain passes. Making electronic gizmos. Building RPN calculators.

                  
Re: where are we? The picture of the "big family" :-)
Message #89 Posted by 0nihr on 24 May 2007, 7:58 p.m.,
in response to message #83 by Giancarlo (Italy)

a newbe from Goodyear; hello Flagstaff!

      
Re: where are we?
Message #90 Posted by db (martinez, ca.) on 20 May 2007, 5:27 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

As Garrison Keillor once said; "ask a question, get an answer". In this instance; the answers were better than my question.

To Anntoine M. Coutte: Ah, but Martinez is the center of the surface of the world. No place on earth is farther than 180 degrees around the spheroid from us. While this can be claimed by any other place, i thought of it first. "I leave the proof of this as an exercise for the reader".

To Giancarlo: You did a great job on that database. Next time one of life's riddles rears it's head; i'm calling you. The blank info for me is 1955, Surveyor & Licensed Engineering Contractor, 41cx.

            
Re: where are we?
Message #91 Posted by Thomas Okken on 21 May 2007, 11:02 a.m.,
in response to message #90 by db (martinez, ca.)

Quote:
To Anntoine M. Coutte: Ah, but Martinez is the center of the surface of the world. No place on earth is farther than 180 degrees around the spheroid from us. While this can be claimed by any other place, i thought of it first.

...but since the Earth is flattened at the poles, the North Pole has a better claim to be the center of the surface of the Earth. And if you limit your possible destinations to dry land, you'd probably have to pick a spot somewhere in the Middle East. (Update: Egypt, actually.) (Another update: Turkey, actually -- I should have read that web page more carefully the first time around!)

It's all moot, anyway. Everybody knows New York is the center of the universe. ;-)

- Thomas

Edited: 21 May 2007, 2:22 p.m. after one or more responses were posted

                  
Re: where are we?
Message #92 Posted by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) on 21 May 2007, 1:12 p.m.,
in response to message #91 by Thomas Okken

Quote:
It's all moot, anyway. Everybody knows New York is the center of the universe. ;-)

Yeah but, you know, Roma: Caput Mundi(1), Urbs Aeterna(2). Omnes viae Romam perducunt(3)...

Sorry... I couldn't resist ;) just a way to show off all that latin I had to study!

Greetings,
Massimo

References (and translation) in english: (1) (2) (3) Even though I was born there I now live here: Milano, fashion capital... :(

Edited: 21 May 2007, 1:28 p.m.

                        
Re: where are we?
Message #93 Posted by Walter B on 21 May 2007, 1:30 p.m.,
in response to message #92 by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy)

OPTIME :-))

                        
Re: where are we?
Message #94 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 21 May 2007, 2:10 p.m.,
in response to message #92 by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy)

Ciao Massimo,

"ROMA TIBI SVBITO MOTIBVS IBIT AMOR"

This has not to do with Rome being the Capital of the World, but might be a good reason for anyone who was born there never leave ;-)

Regards,

Gerson.

                              
Re: where are we?
Message #95 Posted by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) on 21 May 2007, 3:09 p.m.,
in response to message #94 by Gerson W. Barbosa

Nice one Gerson!
For the interested reader have a look at this and other palindromes here.

Ave atque vale,
Massimo

                                    
AVE MASSIME ! (NULLA VERBUM)
Message #96 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 21 May 2007, 5:09 p.m.,
in response to message #95 by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy)

      
Re: where are we?
Message #97 Posted by John Keith on 20 May 2007, 10:25 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Name: John Keith
Age: 48
Location: Chicago, Il, USA
Occupation: Sculpture fabrication and computer consulting (graphics/video/animation)
Hp calcs owned: 11C, 16C, 42S, 49g+, 50g, 71B, 200LX
Used to have: 28S, 48SX, 48GX (died) 15C (lost)
Other brands: none
Use every day: 50g

      
Re: where are we?
Message #98 Posted by Maximilian Hohmann on 21 May 2007, 10:37 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Hello!

My home base according to Google Maps: 48.529853 (North), 9.035555 (East), in Tuebingen, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany
Status : 44 years old (born 1962), married, one child
Occupation: Part time aerospace engineer (CAD/CAM software development), part time commercial pilot (air taxi, express cargo & flying instruction)
Interests : Horses and riding, astronomy, photography, calculators, ...
Preferred calculator: Apple Titanium PowerBook (sorry... not the right place to confess ;-) )
Favourite singer : M... no, no more confessions here!

Greetings, Max

Edited: 21 May 2007, 11:16 a.m.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #99 Posted by Achim (Germany) on 21 May 2007, 10:52 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Here are my coordinates:

Name: Achim Buerger
Age: 49
Location: Duesseldorf, Germany
Occupation: IT-Manager (former physicist)
Calculators: several HP9810,9820,9830,9831,9825,9845,85, HP&TI pocket calcs
Hobbies: Aviation (PPL-A), JAVA programming (HP9800 Emulator), astrophysics

      
Re: where are we?
Message #100 Posted by megarat on 21 May 2007, 9:30 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

this is a fun project ... to contribute:

location:    Seattle, USA, Earth
YOB:         1970
occupation:  computational biologist
HP calcs:    12c, 15c, 16c, 48sx (formerly:  48gx, 28s, 28c)

cheers! craig

      
Frog-eater online
Message #101 Posted by Olivier TREGER on 22 May 2007, 1:56 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Hi,

Olivier, 46yr-old, used to be a salesman in computers (Tandy, DEC, NeXT, Compaq, HP,...)

I'm located in Levallois-Perret, close suburb of Paris (N-W).

Location: 48°54'2.40"N 2°17'9.95"E

Here's a view on my collection: http://calc.treger.net (around 50 calcs all together)

Enjoy

      
Re: where are we? UPDATE
Message #102 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 22 May 2007, 2:55 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Hi all.
You can find the most updated version of the "database" here:
Form Contributors Database
I tried to consider all your suggestions and/or amendments.
If I didn't succeed, it's my fault, even though in good faith :-) so please feel free to issue any RFA (Request for Amendment) and I'll tak care of it.

Thank you for contributing.
Best regards.
Giancarlo

            
Re: where are we? UPDATE
Message #103 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 22 May 2007, 9:25 a.m.,
in response to message #102 by Giancarlo (Italy)

To fill some gaps:

YOB: 1967

JOB: Physicist

Calcs used at work: Currently an OEM Sharp scientific (no one ever steals a calc like that) at workplace #1, 32SII, 48G and TI-66 at workplace #2 (my home)

Thomas

            
Re: where are we? UPDATE
Message #104 Posted by Trent Moseley on 22 May 2007, 3:40 p.m.,
in response to message #102 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Giancarlo,

Please update:

Year of birth: 1926

HP calcs owned: HP-25C, HP-31E, HP-67, HP-12C, HP-15C, HP-16C, HP-32Sii, HP-33S, and an HP-42S.

Thanks. I would of done this by e-mail but it's having problems right now.

tm

                  
Re: where are we? UPDATE
Message #105 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 23 May 2007, 2:45 a.m.,
in response to message #104 by Trent Moseley

Trent,
got your point.
Thanks.
Best regards.
Giancarlo

            
Re: where are we? UPDATE
Message #106 Posted by Meindert Kuipers on 22 May 2007, 3:55 p.m.,
in response to message #102 by Giancarlo (Italy)

WOW, suddenly found myself with a new job and new calcs! The infor probably belong to a friend one line above or below me ....

Let me correct my information: Name: Meindert Kuipers Birthyear: 1960 City: Oss Country: Netherlands Coordinates: appr. 5146'38 N 531'9 E Profession: Project Manager (Embedded Hardware) Calcs: 4* HP41, HP16C, various accessories, MLDL2000 Other Hobbies: iceskating, inlineskating, astronomy and my family (1 wife, 2 kids, 1 cat)

Meindert

                  
Re: where are we? UPDATE
Message #107 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 23 May 2007, 2:49 a.m.,
in response to message #106 by Meindert Kuipers

Meindert,
*you* are absolutely right and *I* was wrong :-)
The info referred to Nelson.... Apologise for that to both of you!
Updated the info and uploaded a revised file.
Thanks for pointing that out and a special cuddle for your cat (it's my favourite kind of pet as well).
Best regards.
Giancarlo

            
Re: where are we? UPDATE
Message #108 Posted by Geir Isene on 24 May 2007, 3:45 a.m.,
in response to message #102 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Some update on me:

YOB: 1966 Calcs used @ work: HP-41CX, HP-97, HP-67, HP-19C, HP-37 (in that order)

                  
Got! Thanks [NT]
Message #109 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 24 May 2007, 4:49 a.m.,
in response to message #108 by Geir Isene

[NT]

            
Re: where are we? UPDATE
Message #110 Posted by Howard Owen on 24 May 2007, 4:23 a.m.,
in response to message #102 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Calcs used at work: 15C, 50G

                  
Got this one as well! Thanks [NT]
Message #111 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 24 May 2007, 4:50 a.m.,
in response to message #110 by Howard Owen

NT

            
Re: where are we? UPDATE
Message #112 Posted by Andrs C. Rodrguez on 24 May 2007, 8:04 p.m.,
in response to message #102 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Giancarlo, thank you for the care you put on this project!.

While I use a 33S at my office (I need RPN, and dont want to risk or wear out my older machines), I would add I also use v.41 and Free42 as day-to-day calculators. I think both deserve the title of "calculators" in this context.

                  
Re: where are we? UPDATE
Message #113 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 25 May 2007, 4:21 a.m.,
in response to message #112 by Andrs C. Rodrguez

Hi Andres.
Got your info!
Thank you for your kind words that I do appreciate :-)
Best regards.
Giancarlo

      
Re: where are we?
Message #114 Posted by Miki Mihajlovic on 24 May 2007, 12:43 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Name: Miki Mihajlovic

Where: Calgary, Canada, N51 07 47.0 W114 09 08.4

Job: Petroleum Engineer

Age: 46

Calcs: 41s, Voyagers, Classics, Curtas

Hobbies: Wasting time and money

Edited: 24 May 2007, 12:43 a.m.

      
Re: where are we?
Message #115 Posted by Larry Corrado on 27 May 2007, 7:14 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by db (martinez, ca.)

Good Morning!

Name: Larry Corrado

Location: Manitowoc, Wisconsin USA (on the western shore of Lake Michigan)

Age: 64

Number of HP's: 26

Other calculators: about 100 TIs, other electronics; Curta II (from my sports car rallying days), misc slide rules, abaci, Napier's bones, calculatoria

Occupation: retired professor: physics, computer science

My first HP was an HP-25 in 1977, which I used virtually daily until I retired in 2002. It was then that I found a dusty HP-22 in a secondhand store, cleaned it up, and began collecting calculators.

Best regards to all, Larry

            
Re: where are we?
Message #116 Posted by Thibaut.be on 27 May 2007, 10:57 a.m.,
in response to message #115 by Larry Corrado

Hi,

I live here 5045'5.54"N, 4 7'33.93"E and am a Finance Director. I'm 39 years old. I use a 41CX on a daily basis for number crunching. I alos use my brains for simple add/substract numbers on the screen as it takes less time to calculate mentally than loosing the line you were to type the numbers.

Cheers !

Edited: 27 May 2007, 10:59 a.m.


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