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Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #1 Posted by Namir on 13 Apr 2007, 12:13 p.m. Is support for RPN the only difference between the HP-19BII and the HP-19B? Namir Edited: 13 Apr 2007, 12:13 p.m.

Re: Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #2 Posted by Calculator Expert on 15 Apr 2007, 12:27 p.m., in response to message #1 by Namir What is RPN?

Re: Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #3 Posted by Namir on 16 Apr 2007, 8:58 a.m., in response to message #2 by Calculator Expert Right Part Number .. or something like that!

Re: Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #4 Posted by Karim M. on 20 Apr 2007, 5:38 a.m., in response to message #3 by Namir Quote: Right Part Number .. or something like that! REVERSE POLISH NOTATION !!!!! Which also gave an awful programming language called RPL (UserRPL or SystemRPL) for REVERSE POLISH LISP. This is the LISP (aka. Lots of Insane and Stupid Parentheses) w/o parentheses...

Re: Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #5 Posted by Bob Wang on 15 Apr 2007, 2:07 p.m., in response to message #1 by Namir Namir: I only have the side battery door 19BII, but my understanding is that the Indonesian 19BIIs with back battery doors don't suffer the same problems with door breakage. Bob

Re: Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #6 Posted by Namir on 16 Apr 2007, 8:59 a.m., in response to message #5 by Bob Wang I meant difference in software between the 19B and 19BII. I am aware of the "back side door" version. Namir

Re: Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #7 Posted by Bob Wang on 16 Apr 2007, 11:48 a.m., in response to message #6 by Namir Namir: FWIW, my 19BII Owner's Manual is IDENTICAL to my 19B Owner's Manual except for the following: p.36 The last paragraph refers to appendix D. Appendices D,E,F added for RPN. Bob

Re: Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #8 Posted by bill platt on 16 Apr 2007, 12:19 p.m., in response to message #7 by Bob Wang Is this also true for the 17b / 17bii?

Re: Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #9 Posted by Bob Wang on 16 Apr 2007, 2:45 p.m., in response to message #8 by bill platt Bill: Sorry, I don't own either a 17B, or a 17BII. I SUSPECT it's the same situation as with my 19B and 19BII where there is one reference to Appendix D, and the additional appendices to cover RPN. Bob

Re: Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #10 Posted by Namir on 16 Apr 2007, 2:57 p.m., in response to message #7 by Bob Wang Thanks Bob! I thought maybe the 19BII added a few more functions in addition to supporting RPN. Namir

Re: Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #11 Posted by Bruce H on 17 Apr 2007, 6:08 a.m., in response to message #10 by Namir Hi Namir, I thought that there were three models: 19B, 19BII and 19BII Business Consultant II. I don't have access to mine at the moment to check the differences but I think RPN only appeared in the latter. The middle one has additional math functions (trig I think - but my memory is hazy here.) All three were made with the side battery door design but with varying quality of keypress feel!

Re: Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #12 Posted by Eric Smith on 17 Apr 2007, 2:04 p.m., in response to message #11 by Bruce H Quote: three models: 19B, 19BII and 19BII Business Consultant II There might have been labeling variants, but I think that's only two models, with and without the "II".

Re: Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #13 Posted by Namir on 18 Apr 2007, 2:10 a.m., in response to message #12 by Eric Smith Eric, Both models include "Consultant II" in their title. This has confused quite a few eBay sellers who sell an HP19B using HP19BII in their description, thinking that they can shift the "II" in "Consultant II" to the calculator number. Its' REALLY HP's FAULT FOR USING A POOR TITLE. Yes I am shouting so HP can hear me. Namir

Re: Difference between 19Bii and 19B Message #14 Posted by Eric Smith on 19 Apr 2007, 3:55 p.m., in response to message #13 by Namir Yes, the naming was astoundingly stupid. The clamshell financials were: HP-18C Business Consultant HP 19B Business Consultant II HP 19BII Business Consultant II The first part (HP-18C, HP 19B, or HP 19BII) is the actual model number. The rest is a marketing title. There may have been labelling variations regarding the title. Whether the marketing title does or does not include "II" has nothing to do with whether it is a 19B or a 19BII. It either has the II immediately after the 19B, or not. If someone offers a "Business Consultant II" for sale, that's not enough information to determine which model it is.

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