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Re: 42S programming Message #1 Posted by ECL on 22 Feb 2007, 11:14 p.m. Hmm...could that be a VT alum? Its funny how everyone who attends 'tech refers to it as 'tech', hoping people might assume it is one of the few Brand-Name techs', regardless of which one it is...could be Caltech, MITech, ...a bit ego-centric :) Anyway, read the manual...I learned to program my calculator by hacking around in the dark. This made me a better programmer, as I was forced to get creative first, only to learn of commonplace techniques after the fact. (As opposed to someone who reads '10 steps to becoming a hacker') These types want to 'apply' commands and subroutines from their repertoire, while the rest of us get a more far-reaching capability by "enjoying the hunt." ECL [edited by moderator] Edited: 23 Feb 2007, 1:41 p.m. after one or more responses were posted

"Tech" and programming Message #2 Posted by Karl Schneider on 23 Feb 2007, 1:14 a.m., in response to message #1 by ECL Quote: Hmm...could that be a VT alum? Its funny how everyone who attends 'tech refers to it as 'tech', hoping people might assume it is one of the few Brand-Name techs', regardless of which one it is...could be Caltech, MITech, ...a bit ego-centric :) Or Georgia Tech, or maybe some other "Tech" that is not commonly known. It's true that Caltech (California Institute of Technology) and MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) are more prestigious than all the the others. Quote: I learned to program my calculator by hacking around in the dark. This made me a better programmer, as I was forced to get creative first, only to learn of commonplace techniques after the fact. I'm not sure that I'd have patience for that approach. I prefer to learn things the "right way" first, then to explore. This is even more important when doing car repairs -- read the manual first! Quote: Have fun waiting for answers... ECL [edited by moderator] Be sure that you're responding to the correct message... :-) Seriously, that program can be quite tedious to input if one does things the hard way, as illustrated by my anecdote. (For example: [XEQ][ALPHA][JKLM][M][RSTUV][V][ABCDE][A][RSTUV][R][ALPHA][ALPHA][NOPQ][P][RSTUV][V][ALPHA]) So, I gave some pointers -- the key one being the first one. That's about all the assistance that is warranted, though. -- KS

Re: 42S programming Message #3 Posted by Howard Owen on 23 Feb 2007, 11:30 a.m., in response to message #1 by ECL Quote: Have fun waiting for answers... ECL [edited by moderator] Have fun talking to the same old people year in and year out. We certainly won't get new ones with welcomes like that.

Re: 42S programming (slight apology, w/ defense) Message #4 Posted by ECL on 23 Feb 2007, 5:48 p.m., in response to message #3 by Howard Owen It takes a bit of mettle to succeed. If someone can't take a bit of criticism or tolerate light turbulence...well, then do you really want to serve as a beacon to attract more? I'll amend my comment on hacking around in the dark: Yes, by all means, read what you have at your fingertips...but like many programmers will tell you (I'm an aero engineer, not programmer) is that you need a 'problem' to solve in order to get going in programming. That is to say, you need to try to try/fail/retry/accomplish things rather than lounge in a tome all day. This is by my own experience, however. I was never handheld through my education, except for during one internship. That one was BORING, because I felt that I wasn't being held accountable. So...a long OT ramble...but what I really intended was to pour the coals on a bit to get 'tech alum' sparked up and into a DIY mode, because that's how I learned (and it worked). ecl

Re: 42S programming (slight apology, w/ defense) Message #5 Posted by Charlie O. on 23 Feb 2007, 7:43 p.m., in response to message #4 by ECL I think that because you responded to Karl's post rather than tech alum's everyone thought your comment was to Karl. At any rate it's best to use politer language and maybe a smilie : ) CEO

ADIOS HPMuseum [edited by moderator] woohoo... Message #6 Posted by ECL on 24 Feb 2007, 1:09 a.m., in response to message #5 by Charlie O. I have participated (and contributed programs) in this forum over the last five years. I have no interest participating [edited by moderator] in a forum that EDITs my statements. I'd rather be PURGEd! [edited by moderator] I've witnessed [edited by moderator] the foolish behavior on this site before, where participants appoint themselves as officers and alert D.H. to suspicious behavior...nothing more than "civic Walter Mittys." I suggest that you engage your mind in something interesting. [edited by moderator] (makes you wonder what was removed, huh?) Anyway, continue to run your "benchmarks" on obsolete pocket calculators. Don't forget to keep an up-to-date blog documenting your steps! We think of you as glorified technicians, nothing more. [edited by moderator] [edited by moderator] At any rate, I haven't seen an interesting [edited by moderator] post here in a long time, so goodbye. Enjoy pondering just WHAT was edited. [edited by moderator]

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