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HP 49G+ electronic manuals Message #1 Posted by Chris Dean on 25 May 2006, 5:28 a.m. Could the electronic manuals e.g. Advanced User Reference Manual, User Guide and User Manual be put on an SD card and accessed from the HP49G+ directly as it does not seem to make sense to have a fantastic portable electronic device like this and have to use a computer to reference the functions. Surely the idea of the HP49G+ is to be able to work without having a computer on stand-by. Alternatively are these books (AURM and UG) going to be published? I prefer reading manuals. Chris

Re: HP 49G+ electronic manuals Message #2 Posted by Arnaud Amiel on 25 May 2006, 8:00 a.m., in response to message #1 by Chris Dean If you look at hpcalc.org, you will find "help 49" which is a good step towards your goal. Having the whole AUR would be good but it is a very big job, unless we get the source files of the AUR in which case it is only a big job. Arnaud

Re: HP 49G+ electronic manuals Message #3 Posted by Chris Dean on 25 May 2006, 12:20 p.m., in response to message #2 by Arnaud Amiel Arnaud Thanks the link looks useful. Regards Chris

Re: HP 49G+ electronic manuals Message #4 Posted by Gene on 25 May 2006, 12:49 p.m., in response to message #1 by Chris Dean At this time, I have been told there are no plans to print/publish a paper copy of the HP49g+ manuals. I'm really sorry about that.

Re: HP 49G+ electronic manuals Message #5 Posted by James M. Prange (Michigan) on 25 May 2006, 7:38 p.m., in response to message #1 by Chris Dean Quote: Could the electronic manuals e.g. Advanced User Reference Manual, User Guide and User Manual be put on an SD card and accessed from the HP49G+ directly as it does not seem to make sense to have a fantastic portable electronic device like this and have to use a computer to reference the functions. The first problem is that these are PDF files, and, as far as I know, no PDF reader has been written for the calculator, nor does there seem to be much likelihood of one being written. Any volunteers? Another problem is that the files are much too large to fit into the calculator's memory. You could use Adobe Reader's "select text" and copy and paste the text to plain text files, or maybe use "Print to file" with MS Windows' "Generic / Text Only" printer, but those may leave problems with non-ISO-8859-1 characters, and problems with images. Either way, the documents would have to be split into "chunks" small enough to fit into the calculator's memory. Quote: Surely the idea of the HP49G+ is to be able to work without having a computer on stand-by. True, but with experience, you won't have to be looking at the documentation constantly. Quote: Alternatively are these books (AURM and UG) going to be published? I prefer reading manuals. Me too. These kind of things I print out on an impact dot-matrix printer using re-inked ribbons, so my cost isn't terribly high. It is tedious and noisy; I tend to get things started and then leave the room for a few hours. My printout is black on white only, but I can live with that. By the way, an improved AURM is available at http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=6374. Note that for the new CAS commands, "HELP" is available from the CAT operation. What should be feasible for built-in UserRPL commands (or any SysRPL program or library command that uses the recommended check and dispatch argument checking) would be a SysRPL program that tells the user which argument permutations are valid. I think that that's what HP's USAG program for the 48 series did. Any volunteers for a 49 series USAG programs? Regards, James Edited: 25 May 2006, 8:02 p.m.

Re: HP 49G+ electronic manuals Message #6 Posted by James M. Prange (Michigan) on 25 May 2006, 9:49 p.m., in response to message #5 by James M. Prange (Michigan) PS: If you have a document split into character strings, each small enough to fit into available memory, then Wolfgang's Docfiler or Headman may be good for viewing it. See: http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~raut/WR49/. Regards, James

Re: HP 49G+ electronic manuals Message #7 Posted by Chris Dean on 26 May 2006, 11:26 a.m., in response to message #6 by James M. Prange (Michigan) James Thanks for your comments. The proverbial print out it is then! Regards Chris

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