That didn't work for me (Corrected) Message #5 Posted by Mike on 8 May 2006, 1:55 a.m., in response to message #4 by Howard Owen
UPDATE (correction):
I re-read your comment and it turns out I didn't try that on the 9114B-->PC-->9114B. I tried it with the InternetLIFforDOSfile-->PC-->9114B. That might require a slightly different process. I'm going to retry this tonight for creating my own LIF files and back to 9114B. That might work. But the problem I'm working on is going from the SwapDisc Files that have been created for DOS world back to 9114B disc.
Original comment below
I already tried that and it didn't work. None of the available selections knows of the types used by the 71 or 41, apparently. One of the first things I tried was changing the conversion to "DOS to LIF, Preserve File Type" but it failed.
I've been reading an article by Dan McDonald that says I have to remove the first 32 bytes, from the LIF (which have already been converted for DOS machine and contain these extra 32 bytes) and then use the "user defined" type and manually key in the TYPE and SPECIAL IDENTIFYIERS. This info is in the 32 bytes and is copied into these two fields in the "user defined" type.
I'm using files at: ftp://ftp.math.jyu.fi/pub/hpil/ but I think they are the same as on HP Museum. I was using those because they were the ones referenced in the article.
The problem I was having was the file type was not recognized, before I removed those 32 bytes and before I entered the data into the TYPE and IDENTIFYIER fields.
Sure enough, when I remove the 32 bytes and enter this data, the correct type shows up when I CAT the 9114B disc with 71B. It even loads now, when I load the files. There is still a problem.
The programs don't run. They hang the system up after loading, so there is still something wrong I'm missing.
I removed the 32 bytes with a HEX Editor. I don't think that's where the problem is but I'm going to look there tomorrow. But I'm getting closer.
BTW, I'm working with the same two files, to get some consistency. I'm trying to convert a "CLONE.b71" file and "COUNTLEX.l71" on CHHU06.
Specific steps:
- Use HEX Editor to note TYPE and SPECIAL Identifiers (record these)
- Delete the first 32 bytes
- Use LifUtil to copy DOS to LIF
- Change conversion to "user defined"
- Use F6 to change the TYPE and Special Identifiers
- START
This produces a disc with contents I can read on the 9114B and in fact, I can see the correct file and type. It even loads but hangs up the computer, if I try to execute. Sometimes on loading. I still think something might be corrupted. Tomorrow I'll try a different disc and see if that makes a difference. These discs have been INITIALIZED on the 9114B. But I'll try others.
Getting late, calling it an evening for today.
Edited: 8 May 2006, 11:18 a.m. after one or more responses were posted
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