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Ebay rip-off
Message #1 Posted by Anton on 24 Jan 2007, 1:51 a.m.

An HP Museum DVD for approx. 100$ including shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Museum-of-HP-Calculators-DVD-HP-10-HP-11C-HP-25-HP-65_W0QQitemZ280074072413QQihZ018QQcategoryZ104502QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

      
Re: Ebay rip-off
Message #2 Posted by Maximilian Hohmann on 24 Jan 2007, 4:13 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Anton

Hello!

Quote:
An HP Museum DVD for approx. 100$ including shipping.

I had a look at this sellers other items, and from what I see there, he is not specialised in calculators or electronics, it rather looks as if he is some kind of flea-market dealer. Most probably, he has no idea about the original price of this DVD.

So make use of the "Suggest Price" facility of this eBay listing and offer him a realistic figure. I already did, if more people join in, he may believe us in the end :-)

Greetings, Max

            
Re: Ebay rip-off
Message #3 Posted by Anton on 24 Jan 2007, 5:30 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by Maximilian Hohmann

Your point is right.

But he asks 35 Euro for shipment ..., so I would have to suggest a price of 0, maybe 1 Euro in order "not to pay too much". I don't think that he would accept :)

            
Re: Ebay rip-off
Message #4 Posted by Pierre Lallier on 24 Jan 2007, 5:34 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by Maximilian Hohmann

After some hesitation, I have decided to join this discussion. I notice that both buyers who have made offers so far a from Germany, like the seller. The shipping cost is 4 Euros. For me, in the United Kingdom, the shipping cost would be 35 Euros (about $50, I guess). This may not be a rip-off if he genuinely uses some sort of courrier such as DHL, but what's the point. It is also interesting that this may well be a pirated copy - what's the chance that the original purchaser upgraded his copy to the latest version at a discount, then sold or gave away his old one? Since he has just bought an 11C, he may not be that ignorant.

      
Here is what the seller says
Message #5 Posted by Mike on 24 Jan 2007, 12:57 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Anton

from USA to Germany you hab to add 19% tax and special tax for software and you had to drive to a neighbour town to get the package from the tax-station. very awful this all. yes, of cource you can buy it in the USA much more cheaper

            
Re: Here is what the seller says
Message #6 Posted by Maximilian Hohmann on 24 Jan 2007, 5:07 p.m.,
in response to message #5 by Mike

Hello!

Quote:
from USA to Germany you hab to add 19% tax and special tax for software and you had to drive to a neighbour town to get the package from the tax-station. very awful this all. yes, of cource you can buy it in the USA much more cheaper

Theoretically, yes. But in reality, no: I have bought enough software and other small stuff (guess what ;-) ) directly from the States and never had to pay tax or anything for items below 100$/Euros. In the few cases, where taxes were charged, these were collected directly by the postman C.O.D. ("per Nachnahme" in German). They made me come to the toll station only once so far, but this was because the package contained a mixture of textile and non-textile sporting goods (obviuosly, there is a huge diffence in taxes between the two, who knows why?) with a total value around 500 Dollars, and the tax officer was unsure what tax to apply to which item, so he preferred to talk to me directly.

Anyway, I just saw that this DVD has now been sold for something like 40 Euros which is far more realistic than the original price.

Greetings, Max

      
Re: Ebay rip-off
Message #7 Posted by Dave Hicks on 24 Jan 2007, 1:43 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Anton

The seller just emailed me to ask if I could ship him five copies in one box to save on shipping.


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