HP Forum Archive 15

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New 33s display pic Message #1 Posted by sjthomas on 6 June 2005, 1:24 p.m. Left: CNA411 Right: CNA442 BTW -- the polar/rectangular and HMS bugs are still present Edited: 6 June 2005, 1:26 p.m.

Re: New 33s display pic Message #2 Posted by Namir on 6 June 2005, 1:40 p.m., in response to message #1 by sjthomas Thanks for the pictures. Seeing is certainly a proof! So the CN44x and up has the new decimal?? I checked CN435 (i bought one recently and checked others with same s.n in WALMart) and they have the small decimal. Where did you buy the 33s with the new decimal? Namir

Can you do a pic with 2222222.22 in the display? Message #3 Posted by Gene on 6 June 2005, 1:43 p.m., in response to message #2 by Namir As I recall, the problem was with the 2 and the decimal point. The two pictures you posted don't look much different to me. ? Gene

Re: 33s display of 2,222.22 -- still pretty brutal! Message #4 Posted by Paul Brogger on 6 June 2005, 2:49 p.m., in response to message #3 by Gene I can't offer a picture right now, but I can attest that (on my CNA 435nnnnn), even the improved D.P. looks pretty bad with a "2" on either side -- darned near invisible, in fact. (It looks like a continuation of the 2's baseline.) H-P: If you're listening, how 'bout a software solution: give us the option under "MODES" to select use of a digit position for display a big, fat 4-pixel radix point.

Re: 33s display of 2,222.22 -- still pretty brutal! Message #5 Posted by Jeff O. on 8 June 2005, 2:46 p.m., in response to message #4 by Paul Brogger Quote: ...how 'bout a software solution: give us the option under "MODES" to select use of a digit position for display a big, fat 4-pixel radix point. [ Paul, the above sounds like a great idea. Unfortunately, I presume such a change would require changes to the ROM and other deep internal workings of the calculator. While they're at it, how about giving us two letter labels and variables, and maybe an R + j X format for complex number display, and oh, maybe fixing the bugs? Sort of a slippery slope in which HP appears to have no interest. The radix/comma size problem could be "fixed" by a slight redesign of that particular part. I don't know how difficult it is to produce liquid crystal displays and/or change the design of an existing part, but I guess we should be glad that HP at least went to the trouble to make this one small improvement.

Find the hidden decimal . . . Message #6 Posted by sjthomas on 6 June 2005, 11:02 p.m., in response to message #3 by Gene Here is a scan as requested. I got my graduated loupe out to measure the actual size of the period, but could not get the reticle of the loupe close enough to the display. It would be helpful if the base of the '2' were shortened by a pixel.

Re: New 33s display pic Message #7 Posted by sjthomas on 6 June 2005, 6:23 p.m., in response to message #2 by Namir Quote: So the CN44x and up has the new decimal?? I checked CN435 (i bought one recently and checked others with same s.n in WALMart) and they have the small decimal. Where did you buy the 33s with the new decimal? I got the CNA442 at WalMart near Orlando FL. They also had two CNA4300's with the larger comma/decimal point. The comma is definitely more of an improvement than the decimal point.

Bigger comma, same sized-point Message #8 Posted by Matt Kernal (US) on 6 June 2005, 1:43 p.m., in response to message #1 by sjthomas Is that what you guys see too? Matt

Re: Bigger comma, same sized-point Message #9 Posted by Richard Garner on 6 June 2005, 2:56 p.m., in response to message #8 by Matt Kernal (US) What I am seeing when I enlarge the image is a 4 pixel decimal instead of the 1, that adds an extra line of pixels to make the comma longer. What would have helped out more, would have been to add a blank pixel between the numbers and decimal point on both sides. That would have been a definite break and clarified the decimal more.

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