Re: Rather humorous indeed Message #15 Posted by Gene on 19 Apr 2005, 11:00 a.m., in response to message #7 by Outsider
Outsider: Gene, you believe, or you don't, what you want to. For any non fanatic one, it is crystal clear that the 49G+ has issues.
Gene: Perhaps closer attention to the text of postings might help here. I did say that I might be lucky. My 49g+ does not miss keystrokes. Of course I see reports of people who DO have missed keystrokes. It might be the way they push the keys. I am a key-poker, pressing down vertically. I have seen people who push the keys like they are playstation controls by "mushing" them with their thumbs. They seem to have more missed keystrokes than the "key-pokers".
Outsider: Of course, you can think that all those people with issues, here and at comp.sys.hp48, are just trolls, but that is neither very smart nor very kind. Issues don't dissappear that way.
Gene: Again, closer attention to what someone actually posts would be helpful here. I never said those with issues are all trolls. However, people posting here as "WigglePig" deserve skepticism.
Outsider: About JYA prototypes, I thank Hydrix for trying. I don't think that it is very easy for them to succeed, but what they are doing is better that what HP is doing now. Namely, to use old, good devices as -- what is the word for something used as a model for trying and doing something worse? antiprototypes?
Gene: Why thank them for spending time and money only to fall short of actually producing units? Any business plan should have included FINANCING as a big part of it all. Funny, it appears the engineers could have used a good bean-counter. It is also odd how you would think that JYA's "vaporware" not-available prototypes are better than the actual produced machines HP makes and sells. Yes, they sell a great number of them.
Outsider: As long as we know, current Hydrix problems to begin production of their prototype are financial. Could you point out what kind of problems HP has to continue producing good machines?
Gene: Well, with a new calculator team at HP, I would have been (pleasantly) surprised had they not had hickups along the way. I have seen them respond to the problems brought to their attention. It took guts to recall the 48GII because of the battery problems like they did. It is all a work in progress, but that's the key word...progress.
Outsider: It would be enlightening to have access to statistics about 49G+ units returned by customers to HP. Have you? Has anyone else?
Gene: I'm sure these are internal to HP only, but if it were substantial (and that's not a level I can in any way define), they wouldn't be profitable and in today's business climate, that's a sure-fire way to get closed down. And, therefore, since they continue to make products, it is a good bet they are profitable.
Outsider: Of course, I am not identifying myself, so you can call me something, and ignore any disgusting thinkings which could arise from this message.
Gene: Not much need to do that. You probably want the same thing I do, which are good products that work all the time. I just am not sure we'll ever have that from anywhere.
Example: The first VCR I bought was in 1985. It lasted 12 years. In the 7 years since, I have had to buy and dispose of 4.
Why?
In an effort to reduce costs, things just aren't made the way they used to be.
The market for people willing to pay $2500 for a 2005-equivalent HP65 quality-made calculator with gold contacts and that would last like a tank is what? 5 or 6 people?
For $110, you can get a 49g+ that runs circles around the old machines in terms of capability.
I see progress from HP, while others live in the never to be repeated past. While others are not willing to wait-and-see, others continue to progress.
I do suppose you can always go buy a TI.
And, the anonymity is humorous, whether from a wigglepig or outsider.
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