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HP-11C comma Message #1 Posted by David on 13 Apr 2005, 2:01 p.m. I think I pressed some combination of buttons and my HP-11C now displays in European with decimals and commas reversed. Does anyone know how to retun this to US mode. Thanks David

Re: HP-11C comma Message #2 Posted by Etienne Victoria on 13 Apr 2005, 2:25 p.m., in response to message #1 by David 1) Turn it off. 2) Press the decimal point key and keep it pressed. 3) Press on. A proud European ;-) Etienne

Re: HP-11C comma (o.t.) Message #3 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) on 13 Apr 2005, 4:22 p.m., in response to message #2 by Etienne Victoria Hello, Etiene; Just to add, even if it is only as pure curiosity, that we use these same marks in Brazil: comma for fraction separator, dot for thousands separator. Luiz, also a proud Brazilian ;-) (I liked that...) Best regards. 123456 to remove Edited: 13 Apr 2005, 4:22 p.m.

Re: HP-11C comma (o.t.) Message #4 Posted by Brazilian dot Missing (even more o.t) on 14 Apr 2005, 3:42 a.m., in response to message #3 by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) Hello Luiz, Very interesting but your usual postings are so precise and documented that I'm feel somewhat disappointed that you didn't apply our common Euro-Brasilian rule to the post-deletion password ;-))))) Therefore : "123.456 to delete" BTW, did you get a hand on an Hp-10C ? Kind regards from France !

Dutch dot (increasing OT-ity) Message #5 Posted by Bram on 14 Apr 2005, 5:00 a.m., in response to message #4 by Brazilian dot Missing (even more o.t) Although the "official" Dutch setting for the decimals is the comma, we use either a dot or a comma depending on whichever daily mood we're in. I myself set the decimal dot to comma and hence the thousands separator to dot, just because the comma is more visible than the dot.

Re: HP-11C comma (o.t.) Message #6 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) on 14 Apr 2005, 4:19 p.m., in response to message #4 by Brazilian dot Missing (even more o.t) C'est vrai, mon ami, c'est vrai... I missed the thousands dot... :( And I was not fortunate enough findidng an HP10C yet, can you believe that? (thanks for asking. It's a preaty neat calculator, indeed) It would fit perfectly fine here, don't you think? Click to enlarge This was taken with a 3.2MPixel Nikon Coolpix. In time: the upper row has some TI calcs (TI59 with PC100A, TI57, TI55, TI82; thanks for some of these, M.B.!) and a Casio FX7000GA. All of the others are HP. Best regards, Etiene! And thanks for the kind words...;-) Luiz (Brazil) Edited: 14 Apr 2005, 8:03 p.m.

To Luiz HP-10C comma (o.t.) Message #7 Posted by Etienne Victoria on 15 Apr 2005, 2:47 a.m., in response to message #6 by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) Luiz, Is there a way to have your email so that we can discuss the Hp-10C comma privately ? My email is the one I post here after removing the NOSPAM stuff. Thanks & Cheers ! Etienne

You have mail...;-) (NT) Message #8 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) on 15 Apr 2005, 5:51 p.m., in response to message #7 by Etienne Victoria

Re: HP-10C comma (o.t.) Message #9 Posted by Mike T. on 16 Apr 2005, 5:35 a.m., in response to message #7 by Etienne Victoria I've just done a quick test on my 10C, 11C and 12C are all capable of being switched to display numbers using either commas or points as the decimal separator in the same way Mike T.

Re: HP-11C comma Message #10 Posted by Thibaut on 14 Apr 2005, 4:41 a.m., in response to message #1 by David I suggest that Dave puts a special link on his homepage to answer this most asked question on the forum !

Re: HP-11C comma Message #11 Posted by Etienne Victoria on 14 Apr 2005, 8:28 a.m., in response to message #10 by Thibaut Along with a special site devoted to the Voyager's flashing star - sooooooo infrequently met. In fact collectors never ever encounter it. Only true regular users have a chance to see it ;-))) Kind regards from France! Etienne

Re: HP-11C comma Message #12 Posted by Thibaut.be on 14 Apr 2005, 9:38 a.m., in response to message #11 by Etienne Victoria I've got a flashing star on my 12 since July, and though I use it daily (I'm a finance manager) it stills carries on working fine... I'll change the batteries when the calculator will be definitely silent. My 17BII also showed recently the battery sign, and it 'died' a few days after...

Re: HP-11C comma Message #13 Posted by Thomas Okken on 14 Apr 2005, 10:58 a.m., in response to message #12 by Thibaut.be I changed the batteries in my 10C twice in the 8-odd years that I had it. Of course I was programming it all the time, and I had a 2x speed-up operation performed on it. I bet that doesn't exactly help. :-)

Re: Flashing star Message #14 Posted by Etienne Victoria on 14 Apr 2005, 1:05 p.m., in response to message #13 by Thomas Okken Waow ! Congrats ! You do qualify as seasoned Voyager users and not shelf-programmers ;-) Err...I have no legitimacy to deliver certificates here or elsewhere... ...but how about this one : with my Hp80s, I get a flashing star (actually row of dots) EVERY SINGLE EVENING...and it's not even programmable... Thanks to all for the info : the Voyagers autonomy looks quite weird to LED-addicts. Have a nice day ! Etienne

Re: Flashing star Message #15 Posted by Arnaud Amiel on 14 Apr 2005, 4:02 p.m., in response to message #14 by Etienne Victoria Quote: ...but how about this one : with my Hp80s, I get a flashing star (actually row of dots) EVERY SINGLE EVENING...and it's not even programmable... Thanks to all for the info : the Voyagers autonomy looks quite weird to LED-addicts. On my 45 I have had the row of dots for the last 2 months but I only use it on average maybe 30s a day every working day. So quite good autonomy here Arnaud

Re: Flashing star - Nice One Etienne! Message #16 Posted by james summers (UK) on 15 Apr 2005, 8:59 a.m., in response to message #14 by Etienne Victoria Etienne - I lke your article on the flashing star - brilliant! Happy voyagering!

Re: HP-11C comma Message #17 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 15 Apr 2005, 9:14 a.m., in response to message #11 by Etienne Victoria Etienne posted: "Along with a special site devoted to the Voyager's flashing star - sooooooo infrequently met. In fact collectors never ever encounter it. Only true regular users have a chance to see it ;-)))" On my HP-11C, I've only seen it *twice* in 24 years !! Best regards from V.

Re: Flashing star... Message #18 Posted by Andrés C. Rodríguez (Argentina) on 16 Apr 2005, 6:24 p.m., in response to message #17 by Valentin Albillo We can set up a secondary market for semi-depleted batteries or, better yet, produce our own; scientifically discharging them by means of a resistor (outside any calculator) in order to help the "flashing star" to reach the masses. eBay may become a good vehicle for such specialties, which have the potential to reach and exceed the U$S 100 per set of batteries. :-) I have a name in mind for the appropriate salesman...

Thou shallt follow the Flashing Star Message #19 Posted by Etienne Victoria on 17 Apr 2005, 12:48 p.m., in response to message #18 by Andrés C. Rodríguez (Argentina) Good evening Andrčs & al. Andrčs, I beg to differ....the salesman you have in mind will only sell a battery emulator to power up his Hp 16C simulator ;-))) Or is it a battery simulator for an Hp 16C emulator :-) Oh my! Spring has arrived here too...!!! Kind regards from France! 123.456 to delete. Edited: 17 Apr 2005, 7:04 p.m.

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