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HP41 Card Reader can read/write HP-71 cards Message #1 Posted by Vassilis Prevelakis on 1 Apr 2005, 2:05 a.m. After going through the HP82104A ROM code, I discovered that HP intended to make the HP-41 card reader able to accept the longer cards used in the HP-71B and HP-75C. The longer cards have much increased capacity (up to 160 registers per card versus 32 registers for the normal cards). Unfortunately, not all card readers support the longer cards. I have found that only card readers manufactured after 1984 have the necessary code in their ROM. Use of the longer cards increases the drain on the HP-41 batteries, so be aware that you need a fresh set of batteries or a newly charged NiCd pack. The bad news is that, so far I have been unable to transfer any data between my HP-41 and my HP-71B or HP-75C. I guess the manual card readers on these machines have a different format. Another problem I encountered was that the longer cards are narrower than the HP-41 cards, so you need to make sure that the card is placed towards the bottom of the slot. The newer card readers have little "fingers" on the top of the mechanism that ensure that the card does not move sideways, as it passes through the card reader. The code that allows the long cards to be accessed is not enabled by default. You need to create a link on the card reader PCB. This enables the code and allows the long cards to be read. Unfortunately my web site is currently down, but I will post pictures of the operation to enable the link as soon as possible. In the mean time, here is a picture of a long card being VERified: If anybody has any ideas as to why HP did not enable the code or advertise the fact that the HP-41 could use the longer cards, please let me know. I assume that they did not want to create competition of their HP-IL storage devices. Best Regards **vp

Re: HP41 Card Reader can read/write HP-71 cards Message #2 Posted by Donald Leonard on 1 Apr 2005, 2:22 a.m., in response to message #1 by Vassilis Prevelakis Do you know what ROM versions have this code? Or, as a minimum, what ROM version did you discover this additional code? Don

Re: HP41 Card Reader can read/write HP-71 cards Message #3 Posted by Raymond Del Tondo on 1 Apr 2005, 2:36 a.m., in response to message #2 by Donald Leonard 1st of April;-) Raymond

Re: HP41 Card Reader can read/write HP-71 cards Message #4 Posted by Christoph Klug on 1 Apr 2005, 6:42 a.m., in response to message #3 by Raymond Del Tondo Really a great HP41 joke for the first April :-)) Have a nice day Christoph Klug

HP 4/1 = April 1 (nt) Message #5 Posted by Marcus von Cube on 1 Apr 2005, 9:26 a.m., in response to message #4 by Christoph Klug .

Re: HP 4/1 = April 1 (nt) Message #6 Posted by Donald Leonard on 2 Apr 2005, 2:51 a.m., in response to message #5 by Marcus von Cube Wouldn't you know it - I'm the only one that bit on this gem. It just seemed so possible. And, more imbarrasing than my spelling, I signed my real name instead of my user name Donald1800. Now EVERBODY knows who that duffus was! Don

Spoilsports! Message #7 Posted by Vassilis Prevelakis on 1 Apr 2005, 5:58 p.m., in response to message #1 by Vassilis Prevelakis Congratulations, you are all very clever. The idea with April Fool's jokes is to wait a little bit to see how many people bite. It's not a contest to prove who can remember the date faster. **vp

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