Re: TOS illegal? Then please don't mention it. Message #13 Posted by Diego Diaz on 19 Feb 2005, 1:11 p.m., in response to message #9 by Thomas Okken
Hi (almost) all,
First, It's me who coined "TOS".
http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/archv014.cgi?read=62014
It stands for "The Other Site".
If you prefer "That Other Site", it's Ok for me too (I'm not gonna sue you for "Copyright" infringment...)
So, once I've admitted to be the one to blame...
...that leads me to the main question:
Mr Okken:
1st- Definition of what is legal or ilegal is a mere question of time and use.
2nd- You can call me "hypocritical", this won't made a different (worst) person of me, as it didn't made a different (better) person of you either.
3dr- Appart from your taste for judgement and moral advise:
http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/forum.cgi?read=68940
most of us here are extremely careful when it comes to judge others. Most of us know that it is *really* difficult to tell wrong from right, and it's not a good idea judging without knowing *all* the evidences. It's not a good idea gudging from our living-room or from our keyboards.
You can, of course, have your own opinions, but please, we also have ours so, keep yours with you.
4th- Will you (any of us for that matter) keep on visiting this wonderfull site if you were aware that it contains links to child pornography sites?? Sure not!! But have you ever tried to check if *any* link referenced in *any* post could lead you to such a site, or even if one can place such a link in a post??? Sure not!! Do you consider it a worst behaviour to build a site where "free and illegal downloads of copyrighted software etc." can be found... or a child pornography one?? (Not answer needed)
5th- Copyright is a money matter. That's all about. And, to my mind, there are *really* few things that lead to inmoral behaviour as money does.
6th- Guttemberg would probably be sued by Cistersian monks (if they come back to live nowadays...)
7th- Knowledge is what makes the human being worth living, please, let it spread. The most brilliant brains in History fighted against the stablished powers trying to share their knowledge. Now he most weak brains ever figth beside the established power to keep knowledge restricted by law... Seems that we haven't learned much since Spanish Inquisition.
8th- If Newton, Einstein, Galileus, DaVinci, Heisenberg... would have kept the copyright of their knowledge and discoveries we simply won't be here.
9th- Mr. Furlow, (curator of TOS) is by no means banned in this forum:
http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/archv014.cgi?read=63848
AFAIK he has not been sued by HP, further more, you can also find a link to this MoHPC at TOS.
10th- Last but not least, you can find a link to TOS on this very site!!!
Of course it is not directly mentioned but it's quite easy to find. It is the case that Warren is the author of the best Windows base HP-41 emulator (freeware). So you can go to the "Calculator Simulations" link:
http://www.hpmuseum.org/simulate/simulate.htm
There you'll find "HP-41C Emulator (Windows)" at the bottom, and this link will lead you to Mr Furlow's site and... to "The Other (illegal?) Site"!!!
Will this change your mind, Mr. Okken, to think that David Hicks is also "Hypocritical" for that "cute" workaround??
Isn't it funny??
Fortunatelly, there are millions of people that can see a huge amount of greytones between black and white.
My best wishes to all of'em.
Diego Diaz, developer of Clonix and NoVRAM modules, none of which could have ever been conceived without the contribution of MoHPC people/info *and* TOS on-line (illegal?) documents.
Edited: 19 Feb 2005, 1:35 p.m.
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