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Using LIFUTIL Message #1 Posted by John Pierce on 15 Oct 2004, 3:28 p.m. My nucleonic, electronic, and supersonic PC is too modern and won't run LIFUTIL in a WindowsXP command prompt window. I installed LIFUTIL on an HP-110+ successfully but the software doesn't run, it appears as though the display is hung up. Did HP produce a special version of LIFUTIL for the HP-110+ or does anyone know of a version of LIFUTIL that will run on the HP-110+ ? Thanks for the help. Best Regards John Pierce

Re: Using LIFUTIL Message #2 Posted by chris on 27 Oct 2004, 3:47 a.m., in response to message #1 by John Pierce hi my mind that all translation pgms on hpil are made up for pocket little calculators like 48 34 67 and ..bla bla but not for hp ms dos COMPUTERS like series100 200 9000 etc so all supposition of compatibility with .... is not not right or not?

Re: Using LIFUTIL Message #3 Posted by Raymond Del Tondo on 27 Oct 2004, 4:39 a.m., in response to message #2 by chris For the HP9000 series computers, no conversion was necessary, because they used LIF format for diskette media. IIRC, HP Vectra PCs, and maybe the older Series 100 machines like the HP-150, had a conversion utility (LIFUTIL..) shipped with the OS (CP/M or DOS). For the other calculators which are not capable of HP-IL, and which cannot make use of files on LIF media, there are no conversion utilities. Raymond

Re: Using LIFUTIL Message #4 Posted by chris on 27 Oct 2004, 5:08 p.m., in response to message #3 by Raymond Del Tondo hi raymond many of your infos are useful... do you know the structure of the lif format? or perhaps the old dif format translator? i have some info else where.looking...

Re: Using LIFUTIL Message #5 Posted by Raymond Del Tondo on 27 Oct 2004, 6:04 p.m., in response to message #4 by chris Hi Chris, the LIF structure is explained in some articles in the articles section of the hpmuseum, and to a certain extent, in the HP-IL module, Extended IO module, or 9114 disc drive manual. Keywords for the hpmuseum articles: Tony Duell, Christoph Klug, ... There's a chance that you'll find additional info on www.series80.org Regards, Raymond

Re: Using LIFUTIL Message #6 Posted by chris on 27 Oct 2004, 4:32 a.m., in response to message #1 by John Pierce hi i just found an address for you look into google you know ? type google.fr why because the searching aer is not the same like another .de or .sp or or an because if you type 9114a 0r 9114b 9114a you receive different answers ok type google.fr type then hp 9114a 9114b and search one man who speak about hpil and and ... one of them tell you the all hp serie 100 story the right one and not hpil test with 5 accessories and 3 different soft and time and money waste..... I had the original hp service manual from theserie 100 look for example the 9 pin connector...the exhaustly righr list of compatible parts this guy IS a strong strong professional. chris

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