HP Forum Archive 13

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33S MANUAL HAS DISAPPEARED! Message #1 Posted by Steve Ramsey on 14 Nov 2003, 3:26 p.m. Just took a quick glance at the hp website...and I can no longer find the manual for the 33S! A search for "33S" yields not a trace of anything resembling a calculator. As I see it, motivation for this could be anything from "Why are we posting a manual for a calculator that can't currently be bought?" to "Those people that post to The Museum of HP Calculators Forum are right, we've got to totally redesign this thing!" Commence wild speculation. While you're at it, consider these facts: -HP still holds the copyright for the HP 42S's ROM -The HP 42S is capable of handling 32k of RAM -The HP 42S uses a two-line display -The latest information indicates that the HP 33S will have 32k of RAM and a (underutilized) two-line display Ah, if only..... Ciao, Steve

Re: 33S MANUAL HAS DISAPPEARED! Message #2 Posted by Namir Shammas on 14 Nov 2003, 3:42 p.m., in response to message #1 by Steve Ramsey Steve, I found the HP33s manual "again" at: http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/taskPageSelect.jhtml?reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&prodId=hp33sscien370806&pagetype=manual&docparent=manual Trying to find it using the regular search is like trying to find Saddam Hussein!!!

Re: 33S MANUAL HAS DISAPPEARED! Message #3 Posted by Steve Ramsey on 14 Nov 2003, 4:32 p.m., in response to message #2 by Namir Shammas Looks like we'll be stuck w/ the present incarnation of the 33S. I'll have to keep dreaming of a 43S... -Steve

Educate HP with sumulators!!! Message #4 Posted by Namir Shammas on 14 Nov 2003, 5:38 p.m., in response to message #3 by Steve Ramsey We can always create a simulator and then send it to HP and say "Here is what we want!!"

Educate HP by not buying low quality products Message #5 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 14 Nov 2003, 6:10 p.m., in response to message #4 by Namir Shammas HP obviously lost focus on their loyal customers so it's about time to get used to 'the other' notation and look for a manufacturer that takes more care for its products. Thomas

Re: Educate HP by...How about a copy of RCL20? Message #6 Posted by jimc on 14 Nov 2003, 6:25 p.m., in response to message #5 by Thomas Radtke We could always send a copy of RCL20 to Carly. She could have someone read it to her. ;) 12345

Lampman's trying to buy toys... Message #7 Posted by james (UK) on 14 Nov 2003, 6:37 p.m., in response to message #6 by jimc I really enjoyed reading RCL20 especially 'The Most Toys' by Dean Lampman - I still crack up on re-reading the part about him getting his 35! Best, James

Re: Educate HP by...How about a copy of RCL20? Message #8 Posted by Namir Shammas on 14 Nov 2003, 7:56 p.m., in response to message #6 by jimc Too bad John Houseman is not around to read the book for Carly!!! :-) Namir

Re: Educate HP by...How about a copy of RCL20? Message #9 Posted by Wlodek Mier-Jedrzejowicz on 14 Nov 2003, 9:21 p.m., in response to message #6 by jimc It's nice to see RCL 20 mentioned, and, actually, Frank Wales and I did donate 3 copies to the HP people at the 2002 HP Handhelds Conference in London. We never heard how far up the HP hierarchy they travelled (or were read) ;-) Regards all! Wlodek

Re: 33S MANUAL HAS DISAPPEARED! Message #10 Posted by Brent on 16 Nov 2003, 5:46 p.m., in response to message #3 by Steve Ramsey Now it's gone completely. Even the link posted in a previous message is no longer valid.

33S Manual has reappeared Message #11 Posted by Mike Sebastian (Texas) on 16 Nov 2003, 7:27 p.m., in response to message #10 by Brent http://h20015.www2.hp.com/content/common/manuals/c00043313/c00043313.pdf It is now located under the HP 30S product information pages.

The amazing travelling manual.... Message #12 Posted by james(UK) on 17 Nov 2003, 2:09 p.m., in response to message #11 by Mike Sebastian (Texas) Doesn't give you much faith that HP have any clue as to what they are doing when they can't even keep their manuals in one place!!!

Re: 33S MANUAL .... It's My fault Message #13 Posted by Norm on 15 Nov 2003, 2:05 a.m., in response to message #1 by Steve Ramsey It's my fault the HP-33S manual disappeared. I was speaking to a senior HP executive and told him calculators should not be shaped like a Chevron gas station sign. Also, I told him that HP-34C was the best calculator HP ever made. He said they would immediately scrub the entire HP-33S program and divert the entire HP calculator engineering department to making retro-nostalgic red LED calculators that work like classic calculators. No doubt he got the HP-33S manual pulled at the same time.

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