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9G - Manual, No RPN, No Surprises
Message #1 Posted by rsenzer on 30 Nov 2002, 12:05 a.m.

The manual is here:

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/content/common/manuals/bpia5265/bpia5265.pdf

      
Re: 9G - Manual, No RPN, No Surprises
Message #2 Posted by Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) on 30 Nov 2002, 12:59 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by rsenzer

Well, if we can call these manuals here are
the 9g "How To Guide": http://h20015.www2.hp.com/content/common/manuals/bpia5266/bpia5266.pdf
and the 9s "User Guide": http://h20015.www2.hp.com/content/common/manuals/bpia5267/bpia5267.pdf

Massimo

      
Re: 9G - Manual, No RPN, No Surprises
Message #3 Posted by Laurent Damay on 30 Nov 2002, 4:40 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by rsenzer

Also read this :

www.jcbm.co.jp/eng/consumer/calc/cpdf/srp400g.pdf

            
Citizen SRP400G - Check it.
Message #4 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) on 30 Nov 2002, 11:14 p.m.,
in response to message #3 by Laurent Damay

Hi;

based on what I see here, this is not a bad machine. But we should check this one first, because it's closer to the HP9G as for memory and resources.

I felt intrigued and decided to read about this SRP400G fella. It's far better than the HP9G: its memory goes to 30KB RAM, while the 9G's is 712 bytes deep. It seems a lot of things are the same for both (including program language), but HP probably used an RP325G's clone, so the "new" HP9G will not compete with the 32KB RAM 38G. Maybe the "next generation" is a copy of both SRP 350G and SRP 400G.

Amazingly outstanding!

                  
Re: Citizen SRP400G - Check it.
Message #5 Posted by J.Manrique López de la Fuente on 1 Dec 2002, 6:10 a.m.,
in response to message #4 by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil)

Wow!

It is clear that the Chinese company that do calcs for Citizen, do them for HP too :)

Just think that HP had closed its calculators business at beginnin of 2002, and from some months ago, HP decided to come back, so after closing it, HP hasn't any resources to develop much more innovative products.

The small HP Calculators team has "done" these hp9 series as a "where are still alive".. that's all. I hope we could see more innovation for next year releases.

Remember that all the hp4x line must be updated, so there is still a hope for innovation.

Stay tune,

J.Manrique

                        
Re: Citizen SRP400G - Check it.
Message #6 Posted by Glen Kilpatrick on 1 Dec 2002, 11:06 a.m.,
in response to message #5 by J.Manrique López de la Fuente

I see that my post of "30 Nov 2002, 1:52 p.m." jumped to too many assumptions (I was anticipating the 9G to be a rebrand of the SRP400G). Rats! The new conclusion I'm drawing is that HP didn't even pick the best of the breed to rebrand, and actually *creating* something is beginning to sound like science fiction. It's painful to remember that HP was at the forefront of this technology once.

                              
Re: Citizen SRP400G - Check it.
Message #7 Posted by GE (France) on 2 Dec 2002, 9:15 a.m.,
in response to message #6 by Glen Kilpatrick

Can anyone check the following bug on the 9G (I will not get one, as I already have the Citizen model) ?

When you display a result within a program (PRINT) it is visible on the upper line (11 5x7 dots matrices). Unfortunately, if it takes more than 11 digits to display, the extra digits are truncated !!! This is most visible with scientific notation numbers in floating format. You could test it with : A=1e80/3; PRINT A; As the exponent is truncated, the output is pretty unusable. In direct calculation mode, the results are displayed on the lower 10-digits 7 segments line, and the exponent is always visible. Talk about a disincentive to use programs.

I also regretted on the Citizen that storing a value in a variable takes different syntaxes in keyboard or programming modes : 42->A (keyboard) vs A=42; (program). Why should they have made it simple ? I prefer the 42->A notation, but it is less C-like...

                              
Re: Citizen SRP400G - Check it.
Message #8 Posted by Roberto Flores on 11 Dec 2002, 12:57 a.m.,
in response to message #6 by Glen Kilpatrick

Does anybody knows where can I buy one (SRP400G) in the USA ?


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