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 what comes after trillion?Message #1 Posted by Jack Stafford on 19 July 2002, 10:58 p.m. Please, Whats the next unit above trillions? Thanks Jack

 Re: what comes after trillion?Message #2 Posted by Dave Shaffer on 19 July 2002, 11:28 p.m.,in response to message #1 by Jack Stafford million = 10^6 Billion = 10^9 (i.e. 10 to the ninth power) (for Americans; not Brits!) Trillion = 10^12 Quadrillion = 10^15 Quintillion = 10^18 Sextillion = 10^21 Septillion = 10^24 Octillion = 10^27 Nonillion = 10^30 Decillion = 10^33 When you've counted that high, come back for some more.

 Re: what comes after trillion?Message #3 Posted by Jack on 20 July 2002, 12:53 a.m.,in response to message #2 by Dave Shaffer Thank you, I'll be back for more... in about a zillion years. Jack

 Re: what comes after trillion?Message #4 Posted by thibaut on 20 July 2002, 2:29 a.m.,in response to message #1 by Jack Stafford The next (integer) unit after one trillion is... 1,000,000,000,001... ;-)

 Re: what comes after trillion?Message #5 Posted by db(martinez,california) on 20 July 2002, 6:25 p.m.,in response to message #1 by Jack Stafford jack; the u.s. defense budget, thats what. the budget for the worthless war on some drugs is only .99999 t.

 Re: what comes after trillion?Message #6 Posted by Sampy on 21 July 2002, 6:15 p.m.,in response to message #1 by Jack Stafford Well trillion is not a unit but a multiplier, the unit would be \$ or Watts or seconds. I've not heard anything above a trillion but the greek bi/tri/quad/pent... seems to work. Billion in England used to mean 1,000,000 x 1,000,000 (i.e. [1 million]^2 ) or 10^12. The normally accepted Billion in England is now what the US uses, this used to be called an 'American or US billion'. For scientific use the SI series of multipliers is: 10^ Name ... -18 Atto -15 Femto -12 Pico -9 Nano -6 Micro -3 Milli +3 Kilo +6 Mega +9 Giga +12 Tera +15 Petra ... So a small distance would be 5pm or 5 pico meters. But in the world of finance poeple don't say 2 MegaDollars! Sam.

 Re: what comes after trillion? (petra typo (?))Message #7 Posted by Dave Shaffer on 22 July 2002, 12:11 a.m.,in response to message #6 by Sampy Sam, re: 10^ Name ... -18 Atto -15 Femto -12 Pico -9 Nano -6 Micro -3 Milli +3 Kilo +6 Mega +9 Giga +12 Tera +15 Petra ... +15 should be "peta" (no "r") re: But in the world of finance poeple don't say 2 MegaDollars Maybe not in the financial world, but scientists use mega and giga for costs all the time, with "bucks" rather than dollars, though (sometimes rather sarcastically - usually for the OTHER guys' projects!). One might well say "the space telescope cost about 2 gigabucks" in our parlance.

 Scientific prefixes and notationsMessage #8 Posted by Andrés C. Rodríguez (Argentina) on 23 July 2002, 9:23 a.m.,in response to message #7 by Dave Shaffer I frequently use Mega\$, Giga\$, etc, patly to differentiate because of the the Billion (10^12) vs Billion (10^9) discussion. In Spanish, Billion usually refers to 10^12, trillion is 10^18, etc. Some people, like the peruvian writer Mario Vargas Llosa, suggested to use "milliard" for 10^9, which I understand is similar to the French usage. I once enjoyed asking my boss for a +3 db salary raise, which sounds rather nice in a EE environment...

 Re: Scientific prefixes and notationsMessage #9 Posted by David Smith on 23 July 2002, 10:54 a.m.,in response to message #8 by Andrés C. Rodríguez (Argentina) I once wrote a spec where all the timings were given in femtofortnights (ffn's)

 Re: Scientific prefixes and notationsMessage #10 Posted by Ellis Easley on 23 July 2002, 11:30 p.m.,in response to message #8 by Andrés C. Rodríguez (Argentina) I've been thinking that in my high school German class, we learned that "Milliard" was the word used for "thousand million" (as the BBC newsreaders always used to say).

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