HP Forum Archive 08

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Re:(no stock) or HP consumer test??? Message #1 Posted by Thibaut.be on 31 May 2002, 2:32 a.m. Well, I think that has to be considered on a wider point of view a) even if the profit per share wouldn't increase drastically, we are speaking about marginal income, which means that whatever small it is it is always welcome b) HP could also take advantage of their image and once reputation : the best calculator manufacturer in the world. At the office, or at meeting (I'm leading an investment club), evrybody recognizes my calculator as being an "HP" and say "Oh, yes, I remember, at school/work 20 years ago we were jealous of the ones who owned a HP" c) if they don't want to invest in more research, they could stil produce the 42S, the 32SII, the 12C, the 19BII, the 17BII, the 27S... there is definitely demand for these products and I'm not sure that their end of cycle is that far away...

Re:(no stock) or HP consumer test??? Message #2 Posted by Christof (US) on 31 May 2002, 12:55 p.m., in response to message #1 by Thibaut.be EO (useful) L for these, IMO, is a long way off. No one is building good programmable calculators of thse types (42s, 32sii, 15c) anymore. I'm sitting here debating what exactly to do with my brand new 42s- I lucked into this (should ahve ordered 2) and am not going to easily find an affordable replacement ($229 on ebay?!?!). Would I buy one for $89 new in a store? Yes! $109? Yes- though non dedicated fansprobably wouldn't.(I'd buy three at once and not worry about spares ever again.) Would I buy a 15c for the same price as a 12c? Yes. -C

It's HERE !!! Message #3 Posted by Dave Shaffer on 31 May 2002, 6:02 p.m., in response to message #2 by Christof (US) My brand-spanking new HP42S arrived moments ago (that's about 2PM, PDT/MST, in Flagstaff, Arizona), via UPS from HP "Warehouse L7" in Lincoln, California. The product number is the fabled 00042-60911. What came is _just_ the calculator and slip case - no manual (hope there's one around here). This was ordered via partsdirect.hp.com on Tuesday evening (PDT), charged to my AmEx card, and delivered for free by UPS ground to my vacation address (not the address on the credit card - which IS shown as the "sold to" address). The serial number/ID is ID13400073, which indicates it is a later item in the sequence of values discussed in a thread above. Has anybody gotten a later (higher number?) one? Based on those who were given an indefinite shipping date (when ordering on Wednesday, I'm guessing), I suspect this is close to the last one. (The calculator was made in Indonesia.) I, too, thank Johnny and Michael for the heads-up about these units.

Mine Too! Message #4 Posted by Randy Sloyer on 31 May 2002, 10:02 p.m., in response to message #3 by Dave Shaffer HP paid the FedEx to send mine! Ordered two Tuesday night the 28th online and when the order confirmation came in Wednesday it said the order was "open" but the stock entry said "yes" so I held my breath. Wednesday night brought a new email with the FedEx tracking number! Watched them right to the front door. Wow! Both sn's are 1D045028xx Thanks Johnny!

Re: Mine Too! Message #5 Posted by thibaut.be on 1 June 2002, 3:44 a.m., in response to message #4 by Randy Sloyer Well, mine arrived too ! Great ! From the S/N # difference one can aasume that there were more than 40 in stock.. Anyway thanks johnny ! I think that all of us who got one should pay johnny's one in reward for his precious hint !

Re: Mine Too! Message #6 Posted by Ynnhoj on 4 June 2002, 3:45 a.m., in response to message #5 by thibaut.be Yes - I agree. I also think we should pay johnny's one in reward for his precious hint! But maybe he rather wants another calculator instead... (Eg HP-65, -67, -75C or -75D) Just a hint! Ynnhoj 8^)

Re: Mine Too! Message #7 Posted by Dave Shaffer on 1 June 2002, 11:25 a.m., in response to message #4 by Randy Sloyer Randy, Can you tell where yours was shipped from? Your serial numbers are much different from all the rest that have been reported - which all seem to be from the same production run. Thibaut: what's your serial number?

Re: Mine Too! Message #8 Posted by Randy Sloyer on 2 June 2002, 11:06 a.m., in response to message #7 by Dave Shaffer Dave - My units shipped from: 1731 Aviation Blvd - Whse L7 Lincoln, CA 95648

Surprise! Serial Numbers not Sequential Message #9 Posted by Paul Brogger on 2 June 2002, 7:24 p.m., in response to message #4 by Randy Sloyer I think it's a mistake to think that, even if these were the "last 40 units left" in HP's inventory, that the serial #'s would be handed out in ascending order. I'm guessing the units were made in Indonesia, shipped over unpackaged (there's a lot of air in the packaging), wrapped in plastic here, boxed, cartoned, crated, and stored in whatever order was convenient -- perhaps totally randomly. Later, the were uncrated, de-cartoned, stacked on shelves, and moved all about as -42s servicing went from a high-volume, perhaps multi-workstation activity, to a low-volume, then occasional and finally no-volume activity. By the time it came to house-cleaning, they were probably all jumbled up. We shouldn't assume that the "last one made" was even released with this batch. (And I suppose the offer was made available to HP employees before we got wind of it . . . )

Re: It's HERE !!! Message #10 Posted by CJ on 2 June 2002, 10:17 p.m., in response to message #3 by Dave Shaffer I ordered mine Wed. and the site still says "open". My CC hasn't been charged yet. I guess I missed out on this one. Oh well atleast I have a few trusty 41s and other HP's to keep me going for awhile. Christopher

Re: It's HERE !!! Message #11 Posted by John K. (US) on 3 June 2002, 12:38 a.m., in response to message #10 by CJ Have faith. Just because they haven't charged your card doesn't mean it's not on the way. Heck, I've already got mine and they still haven't charged my card yet... :^) You may want to go back there and take a look at details for your order ("View Details" button). Look at the second section (it'll say something like "Part Number 00042-60911") and see if they have a link for tracking your order. I know that the status on my order wasn't "complete" until two days after it shipped. And the tracking link didn't appear until the day after it shipped.

It will be on the way Message #12 Posted by CJ on 3 June 2002, 8:33 a.m., in response to message #11 by John K. (US) Seems I was a little hasty in my thought that I was too late for this. I checked the order status this morning and the estimated ship date has changed from "N/A" to "07/24/2002". This seems kind of strange that it is almost 2 months from now. But I am happy that they have posted a shipping date at all. Now I wait with anticipation. John K.(US): Have faith. Just because they haven't charged your card doesn't mean it's not on the way. Heck, I've already got mine and they still haven't charged my card yet... :^) Thank you for your faith John it seems to have worked 8^). Regards, Christopher

Re: It will be on the way Message #13 Posted by Mike Markowski on 3 June 2002, 10:10 a.m., in response to message #12 by CJ Hey, thanks for mentioning that. I just checked, and my estimated ship date is now also 7/24/02. Yay! Since my credit card has been charged, I'm *really* hoping that this means it will work out! If not, well, I'm sure the new HP 50G when they go back to the traditional colors and keys, use software better than Mathematica, provide wireless links to your LAN, and a new programming language so you can interface calc apps with your heavy duty apps running on networked machines, and all personally demoed by Elizabeth Hurley will be even more fun. Wait, maybe that was a dream... Mike Markowski

Re: It will be on the way Message #14 Posted by Ellis Easley on 3 June 2002, 11:13 a.m., in response to message #13 by Mike Markowski If some people received machines from stock in a few days and now they are quoting two months, that must mean either they are bringing units from stock in other countries, or they are building new ones.

Re: It MAY be on the way Message #15 Posted by Paul Brogger on 3 June 2002, 11:42 a.m., in response to message #14 by Ellis Easley . . . or it's their default response that gives them time to evaluate whether there really ARE any more available . . . (I'm not simply trying to be negative -- I've got a couple hung up in "OPEN" status and am hoping they'll come through, too.)

Re: It MAY be on the way Message #16 Posted by Richard Garner on 3 June 2002, 12:05 p.m., in response to message #15 by Paul Brogger I went to the site this morning and the option for PCA-OTHER is no longer a solection from the list. You can type in the part number and it comes up no longer available.

Re: It MAY be on the way Message #17 Posted by John K. (US) on 3 June 2002, 7:09 p.m., in response to message #15 by Paul Brogger "Always with the negative waves, Moriarty..." :^)

Re: It MAY be on the way Message #18 Posted by Christof (Davis, CA) on 3 June 2002, 7:39 p.m., in response to message #17 by John K. (US) "It's a mother beautiful bridge, and it's gonna be there."

Re: It will be on the way Message #19 Posted by clarion on 3 June 2002, 11:58 a.m., in response to message #14 by Ellis Easley From previous message.."If some people received machines from stock in a few days and now they are quoting two months, that must mean either they are bringing units from stock in other countries, or they are building new ones." I ordered a 42S from HP in Melbourne, Australia and it is supposedly arriving in 10-14 days from the States, so I doubt that there is stock anywhere in Australia. Maybe in Europe or other parts of Asia like Singapore.

Re: It will be on the way Message #20 Posted by David on 3 June 2002, 3:10 p.m., in response to message #19 by clarion I called and the guy said that my order won't be processed because they are out of stock and the item is obsolete. So I guess I would have to settle for the first two I got. Also, they only charge your credit card when the item is shipped.

Re: It will be on the way Message #21 Posted by Christof (Davis, CA) on 3 June 2002, 7:40 p.m., in response to message #20 by David They precharged my card, then did the "real" charge after shipping. -C

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