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Re: calculater manuals CD's 1-3 Message #1 Posted by Mike Burns on 16 Feb 2001, 7:06 p.m. Where can I locate a table of contents for these individual manuals & which Reference Manual,Advanced Functions Manual,and Technical Applications Manual would be most suitable for a HP17BII especially the equation solver?

Re: calculater manuals CD's 1-3 Message #2 Posted by Todd Garabedian on 16 Feb 2001, 8:46 p.m., in response to message #1 by Mike Burns I'm afraid I don't understand the question. There are several application manuals for the 17B/27S/19B Pioneer calculators: (1) Real Estate, Banking & Leasing; (2) Business Finance & Accounting; (3) Marketing & Sales; (4) Personal Investment, and (5) Technical Applications. I think Jim Lawson published a pamphlet he used as a sales tool when Handicalc was in business that described the contents of each of the above 5 manuals. If memory serves, it also includes a good explanation of advanced equation solver techniques. To my knowledge, there is nothing called a "Reference Manual" or "Advanced Functions Manual" for this series. You ask which manual is most suitable for a 17Bii. Well, they're ALL suitable... they were made for those calcs! Exactly what are you trying to do with your 17Bii? Todd

Re: calculater manuals CD's 1-3 Message #3 Posted by Mike Burns on 20 Feb 2001, 9:44 a.m., in response to message #2 by Todd Garabedian The original book equation for speed walking aerobic fitness points. PT=(Dx60/T)-1)xD-1 e.g. (2x60/30)-1)x2-1=5 points Where PT=points, D=distance(2miles), & T=time(30 minutes). . This is the 1st calculator equation : SPM=((MIN+SEC/60)/(BLK x .435)-13)x60. Where SPM=seconds per mile (based on a 13 minute mile). BLK= .435 of a mile the distance around my neighborhood block. The variables are: SPM. MIN. SEC. BLK. Lets say I went 3 times around the block in 17 minutes and 25.31 seconds and my total walking time was 22 minutes. Therefore; MIN=17 SEC=25.31 BLK=3 SPM=??? ANSWER is 21 seconds per mile because its based on 13 minute mile I know my speed per mile is 13:21 . Now my 2nd equation in my HP 17BII has to do with my total walking time. I used an equation for distance to combine two equations into one: D=(T/(SPM/60+13). Time divided by speed = distance therefore 22/13:21 (21/60+13) is the same as (SPM/60+13) the answer is 1.65 miles is the distance. and the points PT=4.76 This is the answer you should get in the 2nd equation below Therefore; PT=(T/(SPM/60+13)x60)/T-1x(T/(SPM/60+13)-1) is the same as PT=(Dx60/T)-1)xD-1 The variables are PT. T. SPM. When working out equation in a step by step procedure it only works out properly up to this point PT=(T/(SPM/60+13)x60)/T-1 If you put in the equation up to this point using T=22 (my total walking time was 22 minutes) and SPM=21 then PT=?? answer 3.49 is the right answer up to this point. when I put the rest of the equation i.e. x(T/SPM/60+13)-1) in the answer is 3.85 for PT but the correct answer for PT is 4.76 as you can see (T/SPM/60+13) is repeated twice in the equation because it represents D for distance based on the original book equation The HP 17BII is not interpreting this aspect properly. How do I represent this equation so that this aspect is taken into account? Thanks! .

Re: calculater manuals CD's 1-3 Message #4 Posted by Todd G.. on 20 Feb 2001, 9:59 p.m., in response to message #3 by Mike Burns I refer you to Dave Hicks' reply above. Todd

Re: calculater manuals CD's 1-3 Message #5 Posted by Mike Burns on 21 Feb 2001, 4:08 p.m., in response to message #2 by Todd Garabedian Jim Lawson did you publish a pamphlet used as a sales tool when Handicalc was in business that described the contents of each of the above 5 manuals?

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